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Johnson Street Gateway
Uses: condo, commercial
Address: 1314-1324 Wharf Street
Municipality: Victoria
Region: Downtown Victoria
Storeys: 8
Condo units: (studio/bachelor, 1BR, 2BR, 3BR, penthouse, live-work)
Sales status: in planning
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[Downtown Victoria] Johnson Street Gateway (Northern Junk) | condos; commercial | 7-storeys | Cancelled in 2019

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#1641 sdwright.vic

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Posted 05 September 2018 - 01:21 PM

^With a 8, a 6 and a proposed 7 story buildings surrounding it?
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#1642 Mike K.

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Posted 05 September 2018 - 02:10 PM

This helps with the context. I should also point out that Customs House will rise to five and seven-storeys (the old four-storey building is depicted in the context image below):

 

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#1643 Nparker

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Posted 05 September 2018 - 02:14 PM

Definitely too tall for old town waterfront...

I think my appreciation of tall buildings is pretty well known here on VV, but even I find the massing and height of this proposal out of scale for this location.



#1644 dasmo

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Posted 05 September 2018 - 02:15 PM

I like this design a lot! Now make it... 



#1645 Kapten Kapsell

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Posted 28 September 2018 - 03:50 PM

This is going to CoTW on Thursday Oct 4; city staff are in favour of this development.
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#1646 Kapten Kapsell

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Posted 03 October 2018 - 01:46 PM

Victoria Downtown Residents Association is objecting to this development:

https://victoriadra....-junk-rezoning/

#1647 Jackerbie

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Posted 03 October 2018 - 01:56 PM

 

 

The rapid densification that the downtown is currently experiencing highlights the deficit of much needed public space in the area

 

There's public space immediately south of the site. There's new public space on both sides of the new bridge. There's new public space planned between Wharf Street and the inner harbour. There's public space in Bastion Square, Centennial Square, and Market Square.

 

The deficit of public space is north of Pandora, not in this area.



#1648 Nparker

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Posted 03 October 2018 - 02:03 PM

 

...The 15 metre height limit is clearly mandated by the OCP and DCAP and is integral to the protection from erosion of our world recognized heritage resource that is Victoria’s Old Town...

Is Victoria's Old Town actually a "world recognized heritage resource"?



#1649 Bingo

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Posted 04 October 2018 - 07:58 AM

Victoria Downtown Residents Association is objecting to this development:
https://victoriadra....-junk-rezoning/

 

So much for protecting the view of our brand new multi-million dollar bridge.

This building will become part of the bridge debacle before construction is finished.



#1650 Hotel Mike

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Posted 04 October 2018 - 08:05 AM

Apparently the developer has withdrawn this application for the time being. Been taken off CoTW agenda.


Don't be so sure.:cool:

#1651 RFS

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Posted 04 October 2018 - 08:05 AM

This project is cursed



#1652 RFS

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Posted 04 October 2018 - 08:13 AM

I think my appreciation of tall buildings is pretty well known here on VV, but even I find the massing and height of this proposal out of scale for this location.

I don't think the height perse is the problem because there was that previous design with the mini tower that was taller but worked so much better



#1653 Mike K.

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Posted 04 October 2018 - 08:22 AM

Even if it were dropped to three-storeys, this would be the result.

 

There's no way around blocking views of the Sooke Hills unless the Northern Junk Buildings are destroyed and the footprint of the new-build can take their place. And even then it would still be visible.

 

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#1654 Nparker

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Posted 04 October 2018 - 08:30 AM

I don't think the height perse is the problem because there was that previous design with the mini tower that was taller but worked so much better

I agree the current proposal is the least appealing of what has been presented over the past 8 years, but it seems like there is nothing that is going to satisfy everyone. I wonder at this point if the developer is seriously thinking about abandoning the project altogether and we can look forward to several more decades of watching the sad demise of the 2 heritage structures.



#1655 aastra

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Posted 04 October 2018 - 08:32 AM

The 1970s hospital version was the least appealing.



#1656 Nparker

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Posted 04 October 2018 - 08:34 AM

The 1970s hospital version was the least appealing.

The 2012 design was my favourite.



#1657 Mike K.

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Posted 04 October 2018 - 08:35 AM

Apparently the developer has withdrawn this application for the time being. Been taken off CoTW agenda.

 

Correct. I'm just waiting on a little bit more info.


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#1658 Jackerbie

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Posted 04 October 2018 - 08:35 AM

Apparently the developer has withdrawn this application for the time being. Been taken off CoTW agenda.

 

That is correct. CoTW is live right now



#1659 Nparker

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Posted 04 October 2018 - 08:37 AM

Does anyone have the time/resources to collect a summary of all the proposed designs and place them here in one place? It would be interesting to see the evolution/devolution of this project over nearly a decade now.



#1660 Mike K.

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Posted 04 October 2018 - 08:40 AM

Yup, just flip through the images for the concepts that go back to the 12-storey tower: https://victoria.cit...n-junk/#gallery

 

That would be redesign three, I believe, and now we're onto six. Seven if Reliance comes back with another design following this morning's Committee of the Whole pullout.


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