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[Victoria Watcher]

Victoria Police Department is seeking witnesses to an assault in Centennial Square Sunday evening.

Just after 8 p.m. on June 14, police were called to the square for a report of a man with significant injuries. Upon arrival, they found an unconscious man with significant facial injuries.

 

https://www.vicnews....ctoria-assault/

[Nparker]

Is a "vulnerable on vulnerable" attack in the quest of survival actually a crime?

[kxl]

^^ Should go in the crime thread. If we posted every crime event that happened at Centennial Square the thread would be as long as the homeless issues one.

[Nparker]

^^ Should go in the crime thread. If we posted every crime event that happened at Centennial Square the thread would be as long as the homeless issues one.

The two threads could probably be merged. 

[rmpeers]

Victoria Police Department is seeking witnesses to an assault in Centennial Square Sunday evening.
Just after 8 p.m. on June 14, police were called to the square for a report of a man with significant injuries. Upon arrival, they found an unconscious man with significant facial injuries.

https://www.vicnews....ctoria-assault/

Is this why our nimby council was clearing tenters out if there?

[Spy Black]

Nobody is clearing tents from anywhere.

The City of Victoria remains a filth ridden cesspool by design of its Mayor and Council.

 

The City is simply putting up fencing around existing tent sites (the Centennial Square lawn for example), which causes the tenters to move 50 feet to tenting location outside the newly installed fence.

The tenters have now moved over onto Pandora Street beside City Hall, which is where they're currently all set up.

 

It's just more idiotic Whack-a-Mole by Mayor and Council ... doing nothing at all about 250 people taking their daily dump in the doorways of multiple downtown businesses.

The entirety of Centennial Square literally smells like a giant open air toilet currently ... and it appears that it's only going go get worse with each hour that passes.

[Redd42]

There is a whole street of tents on the opposite side of the street from the Rock Bay shelter on Ellice St. No one seems to mention them. They have been there for months.

 

Not sure if the shelter is open?

[aastra]

 

...doing nothing at all about 250 people taking their daily dump in the doorways of multiple downtown businesses...

The entirety of Centennial Square literally smells like a giant open air toilet currently...

 

Rest assured, if there was even the remotest possibility that squalid conditions rife with poor hygiene & sanitation in the heart of a dense urban area could endanger public health in any way (even theoretically), the various levels of government would intervene ASAP with heavyhanded measures pulled straight from the playbook of the world's most tyrannical authoritarian regimes.

 

So in other words, nothing to be concerned about. Poop away.

[On the Level]

Nobody is clearing tents from anywhere.

The City of Victoria remains a filth ridden cesspool by design of its Mayor and Council.

 

The City is simply putting up fencing around existing tent sites (the Centennial Square lawn for example), which causes the tenters to move 50 feet to tenting location outside the newly installed fence.

The tenters have now moved over onto Pandora Street beside City Hall, which is where they're currently all set up.

 

It's just more idiotic Whack-a-Mole by Mayor and Council ... doing nothing at all about 250 people taking their daily dump in the doorways of multiple downtown businesses.

The entirety of Centennial Square literally smells like a giant open air toilet currently ... and it appears that it's only going go get worse with each hour that passes.

 

No-one in their right mind would bring their family downtown.  Businesses have lost both tourists and downtown workers, and now we see a single focused effort from a council that is oblivious or uncaring to the impact of chasing away the CRD population.

[rmpeers]

No-one in their right mind would bring their family downtown. Businesses have lost both tourists and downtown workers, and now we see a single focused effort from a council that is oblivious or uncaring to the impact of chasing away the CRD population.

Increasingly convinced, kidding aside, that they pretty much hate most of their constituents and are trying to destroy the city. They are really getting a bunker/Jonestown mentality of late.

[On the Level]

Increasingly convinced, kidding aside, that they pretty much hate most of their constituents and are trying to destroy the city. They are really getting a bunker/Jonestown mentality of late.

I was pretty upset over the idiotic Junk development rejection as I started to think the same....but.....

 

I don't think there is deliberate malice in mind, just a thought pattern that can't think beyond a few interests.  If they can redistribute wealth from businesses to the homeless and indigenous populations, then in their mind they are doing good.

 

Except families go under, the city revenue to support social programs tanks, the city decays, and ironically they make a call for increased urban sprawl and green house gases to avoid Victoria.

 

Ironically, if you have a stake in Suncor.....your best friends are Lisa Helps and Ben Issit!

Edited by On the Level, 19 June 2020 - 11:12 PM.

[Mike K.]

They’re making the case for Langford as a future regional downtown.

Cities evolve this way all the time, where a new downtown emerges as the old one wanes in influence. This is why I never liked the uptown moniker for Saanich at Douglas. The true uptown will emerge along Goldstream.

People are also flooding out of the core for personal safety reasons and wanting more control over their lives.

[Victoria Watcher]

flooding out of the core.

[Greg]

They’re making the case for Langford as a future regional downtown.

Cities evolve this way all the time, where a new downtown emerges as the old one wanes in influence. This is why I never liked the uptown moniker for Saanich at Douglas. The true uptown will emerge along Goldstream.

People are also flooding out of the core for personal safety reasons and wanting more control over their lives.

 

Someone better tell the developers.

[On the Level]

Someone better tell the developers.

I keep thinking I should take some photos of all the new apartment blocks being built in Langford.  Rows and rows of them.

 

The CRD projections is now a couple of years old.  Langford is slowly catching up with the CoV, but given the goofiness of council, I wonder if the projections will change.

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[Greg]

Sure, Langford is growing quickly. More rapidly than the core. But that does not equate to people fleeing the core, as those projections clearly show.

[Redd42]

I saw mattresses being offloaded from a big truck to the tents on Ellice about 6 pm yesterday. I would say the tents are a now a permanent fixture there. But there are how many hotels available for the homeless only a few blocks away?

[aastra]

 

They’re making the case for Langford as a future regional downtown.

 

But... if another downtown emerges then all of the issues would relocate there, right? Because these issues are downtown issues intrinsically? Downtown produces these issues? These issues must be downtown? Isn't that what we're always saying whenever we want to divert attention from the anti-downtown agenda?

 

It's not that we willfully and artificially concentrated the issues downtown via contrived policies and attitudes. The issues manifested downtown because downtown naturally and inevitably produces homelessness and addiction and mental illness. If the neighbourhoods where hundreds of thousands of people live had any relationship whatsoever to homelessness or addiction or mental illness then wouldn't the issues be glaringly evident in those neighbourhoods? There's hardly a trace, but downtown is swamped. We can logically conclude that downtown has a causal relationship with these issues.

 

Maybe we're overlooking the obvious solution? Replace downtown Victoria with suburban tract housing, and all homelessness, addiction, and mental illness would automagically be resolved?

[RFS]

Uptown still works as uptown if Langford is the new downtown

[On the Level]

But... if another downtown emerges then all of the issues would relocate there, right? Because these issues are downtown issues intrinsically? Downtown produces these issues? These issues must be downtown? Isn't that what we're always saying whenever we want to divert attention from the anti-downtown agenda?

 

Long term, perhaps, but for the next 20 to 30 years, there are no buttercup hippies in Langford.  Too many families with children to put up with anarchy.