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[Barrrister]

Please be advised that if you are about to have a heart attack or stroke in the next few months you should move off the Island. Actually, considering the emergency room situation in Victoria perhaps moving to Rochester would be a good idea.

[Victoria Watcher]

Businesses warehousing workers is not the usual way to do things. For sure. But presumably these are union workers are there are not many other perks available. Exempt management are not likely warehoused.

Edited by Victoria Watcher, 13 July 2022 - 01:25 PM.

[Victoria Watcher]

Please be advised that if you are about to have a heart attack or stroke in the next few months you should move off the Island. Actually, considering the emergency room situation in Victoria perhaps moving to Rochester would be a good idea.

I’ve rigged up an ad hoc home defibrillator using my two front burners on my electric range. So if I have a heart attack I just have to crawl up to my stove, open my shirt and pull myself up. Put the left burner on 8 and the right on 6. Then attach the jumper cables.

Edited by Victoria Watcher, 13 July 2022 - 01:31 PM.

[Mike K.]

Can’t they just live on adjacent Gulf Islands where only 50% of residences are full-time homes?

[Victoria Watcher]

Then swim over? Inter-island ferry schedules are not frequent or convenient.

Can’t they just sleep under patient beds? Those things seem to have high clearance.

Edited by Victoria Watcher, 13 July 2022 - 01:30 PM.

[Mike K.]

More boats than kids. I’m sure they can figure it out.

[Nparker]

...The number of cases of COVID-19 is rising significantly in people aged 70 and over, according to the B.C. COVID-19 Modelling Group...

https://www.timescol...es-hold-5578669

This is also the most vaccinated group.

[max.bravo]

This is also the most vaccinated group.

There’s some very interesting (mainstream, peer reviewed) science looking at this issue right now. Data from many regions are showing vaccines conferring negative efficacy for Omicron, for certain populations.

The tl;dr of the June 2022 paper that reported this is: if you were infected with the original wuhan-1 strain, and afterward became fully vaccinated, then you’re essentially incapable of mounting an immune response to the Omicron strains.

The likely hypothesis, according to Robert Malone, seems to be something called Immune Imprinting. Lots to dig into here if you’re so inclined.

Part 1
https://rwmalonemd.s..._medium=reader2

Part 2
https://rwmalonemd.s..._medium=reader2

Edited by max.bravo, 13 July 2022 - 02:11 PM.

[Matt R.]

The rentals are all full.

[Matt R.]

Then swim over? Inter-island ferry schedules are not frequent or convenient.

Can’t they just sleep under patient beds? Those things seem to have high clearance.

There are water taxis. How do you think the high school kids get here in the morning. BC Ferries??

[max.bravo]

Since there is no covid thread I’ll post this here.

Ontario’s chief medical health officer says the following about 4th jabs:
-calls it a therapeutic; not a vaccine
-young healthy folks should weigh the risks of vaccine injury vs covid hospitalization
-young folks arent at much risk of hospitalization
-risk of myocarditis from vaccine is 1/5000

This is a 180 from a year ago.
30 second Video here:
https://twitter.com/...uBwREsG30wPeabQ

Meanwhile BC’s official info on myocarditis following covid vaccination says this (source https://www.healthli...9-mrna-vaccines )

Rare cases of inflammation of the heart (myocarditis and pericarditis) have been reported after getting the COVID-19 mRNA vaccines. In Canada, this has occurred at a rate of about 3 cases per 100,000 doses of Moderna vaccine and 1.9 cases per 100,000 doses of Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine.

How can the discrepancy between ontario and BC be so large? I thought the science was settled…

Edited by max.bravo, 13 July 2022 - 10:33 PM.

[Nparker]

The science may be settled, but the political science is still in flux.

[Victoria Watcher]

B.C.'s highest court is set to rule this week in an appeal of a landmark decision on a challenge to public health care.

On Friday morning, the B.C. Court of Appeal will release its judgment on the constitutional challenge launched by private health-care advocate Dr. Brian Day, the owner of Vancouver's Cambie Surgery Centre.

https://www.cbc.ca/n...ancer-1.6519812


The (original) decision was hailed as a "historic win" for public health care, but Day has long said that he expects to fight all the way to the Supreme Court of Canada.

Edited by Victoria Watcher, 14 July 2022 - 11:46 AM.

[Barrrister]

Does that historic win for public health now means that everyone will get a GP?

[spanky123]

^ It means that you will be able to pay for one if you want. The BC decision will no doubt be appealed regardless of who wins. Both sides are extremely well funded. Chat again in 5-10 years.

Edited by spanky123, 14 July 2022 - 02:11 PM.

[LJ]

Why would Horgan try to shut down all private surgeries when the public surgeries are so far behind?

 

At least wait to fight that battle when we are caught up and have enough public doctors.

 

Another interesting thing from the Premiers meetings looking for health care funding are shut out by Trudeau because they didn't give him a comprehensive plan about where the money would be spent.

 

No qualms of course giving FN's billions of dollars with absolutely no accounting of where any of that goes.

[spanky123]

^ Private pay healthcare is the 3rd rail in politics unless of course you are a politician, buddy of a politician, athlete or elite. 

 

The belief is that if you allow people to pay then all of the good dcotors and specialists will go to the private pay system and those without any money will have to deal with what is left over. Of course the Government doesn't feel the same way about food or housing but I digress.

 

There are many examples of split public / private care systems which seem to work ok. Dcotors and specialists spend a minimum amount of time each week or month in the public system and then afterwards they are free to do as they want in the private system. One could argue that it adds to capacity rather than detracts from it.

 

If the Cons were in power I would argue that they are trying to make the public system so bad that people will beg to be able to pay for care which would then finally open that door. With the Libs/NDP I just think it is ineptitude. 

[spanky123]

B.C.'s highest court is set to rule this week in an appeal of a landmark decision on a challenge to public health care.

 

Private health care lost again. Case will likely go to the Supreme Court as I stated earlier. 

 

In reality the only way we will see any change is if politicians change the law. Judges, as much as they like to create law themselves, aren't willing to face the mobs as we are seeing in the US re: Roe vs Wade.

[dasmo]

‘Hire Back our Heroes’ billboards, stickers and lawn signs have been popping up across B.C. recently.

The campaign’s goal is to give a voice to the unvaccinated health care employees that are hoping to return to work.

In March 2021, a relatively small but significant portion of B.C.’s healthcare workers were terminated for failure to comply with not succumbing to provincial mandates.

 

Nordine explained that the provincial health care system is short staffed and faltering because of, in his opinion, the vaccine mandates.

 

“Interior Health terminated 953 employees, which is about four-and-a-half per cent of IH’s approximately 21,000 active employees,” due to the vaccine mandate, said Interior Health.

 

Dr. York Hsiang, a now retired vascular surgeon from Vancouver General Hospital told Capital News that even before COVID, the province’s hospitals were running at over capacity.

 

https://www.grandfor...-b-c-hospitals/

[Victoria Watcher]

Janet Nadine Mort took the unconventional route of taking out a Times Colonist ad to seek a medical doctor to refill prescriptions needed for her 82-year-old husband.

It worked.

Michael Mort not only obtained the prescriptions but, “I have two doctors who would like to be Michael’s family physician,” Janet Mort said Tuesday.

A display ad on page A2 in Saturday’s Times Colonist said: “Wanted: Licensed medical doctor for prescription renewal. Urgent! Please?”


https://www.timescol...-filled-5651845

Edited by Victoria Watcher, 02 August 2022 - 06:12 PM.