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[Ms. B. Havin]

"Our main thing is our rural quality of life is at stake," said Lena Lee of Friends of the Saanich Inlet, which is opposed to the development.

"We are a rural community here. We don't want a bustling city here," said Lee, who lives on a 0.2-hectare lot north of the Bamberton site.

Source: Mill Bay group pans Bamberton plan ("Neighbours concerned about loss of rural ambience, lack of water" ???)

[Caramia]

I wonder where this group was when Three Point was cleaning up the toxins that were leaking into their aquifer?

[concorde]

I wonder where this group was when Three Point was cleaning up the toxins that were leaking into their aquifer?

very good point

[gumgum]

Indeed.

[renthefinn]

I wonder where this group was when Three Point was cleaning up the toxins that were leaking into their aquifer?

I highly doubt there was much contamination of the groundwater resources outside of the site, being so close to the elevation of the inlet and in the central area of the property. The effects on the marine ecosystem of the inlet were probably more adversely affected if at all.

[North Shore]

http://www.bamberton...n-Site-Plan.pdf

From this map, there's a planned location for a school. I wonder, in light of all of the recent cuts, and school closures, who is going to pay to build and operate a school? Or is it just a feel-good to help the master corporate plan along?

[Holden West]

I would assume it's a 21st century school, not the warehouses we went to. By that I mean it could be a Montessori like at Selkirk or a small elementary like the new Elsie Roy in downtown Vancouver. You would think with 5,000 homes they could round up 325 or so 6 to 12-year old kids to fill a school.

[Sparky]

I would hope that this would be a school of the future where the students attend a physical school for socializing, sports, recreation, etc. but when classes start, the interactive TV flashes up and highly qualified teachers repetitively conduct high intensity classes via recorded media. Every grade class receives the same training at precisely the appropriate time. Exams are answered online and parents receive progress reports at regular intervals marked by computer not by hand, and delivered electronically not in a backpack.

The physical proctors would have high social skills and be trained to teach the students the pleasure of comfortable interaction, study habits, eating habits, respect towards others, etc. This part of the training might have more flexible age parameters.

ESL students would be given appropriate classes and attention depending on the need.

This would reduce the cost of education big time, and would standardize the level of education for most students, but allow for specialized learning for those that require it.

The sooner that we quit performing educational strategies the same way we did at the turn of the last century the better. The problem will be with the teachers unions. Some teachers might like the idea, but the left wing labour organizers will not. To them it is all about the contract, not about a cost effective delivery of high quality education.

[Bernard]

http://www.bamberton...n-Site-Plan.pdf

From this map, there's a planned location for a school. I wonder, in light of all of the recent cuts, and school closures, who is going to pay to build and operate a school? Or is it just a feel-good to help the master corporate plan along?

The school districts are making cuts as they have fewer students, but when the numbers rise they are building schools or if there is a demand in a new neighbourhood. The provincial government has a separate capital fund to build schools so building a new school is not an expense for the school district.

On a per capita basis BC school districts are well funded, what I always wonder is why the school boards seem to be unable to manage their money well and why they seem uninterested in developing any fundraising campaigns like the universities do

[VicHockeyFan]

On a per capita basis BC school districts are well funded, what I always wonder is why the school boards seem to be unable to manage their money well and why they seem uninterested in developing any fundraising campaigns like the universities do

Or hospitals etc.

[concorde]

Because the people on the school board are elected by the population instead of the school board going into the community and paying top people to run their business. Seriously, how many people here really pay attention to the school board ballot when they are voting at the municipal election? I'll be honest, I didn't know anything about the school board trustees on the ballot at the last election so I didn't vote for anybody.

[snub]

5000 new homes. 5000 more cars on the Malahat. Oh....joy.

[Bernard]

5000 new homes. 5000 more cars on the Malahat. Oh....joy.

That is unlikely, the number of cars on the Malahat from these 5000 houses is likely to be only 1500 to 2000 by the end of the build out in 30 years if our work patterns remain like they are today.

[jdsony]

5000 new homes. 5000 more cars on the Malahat. Oh....joy.

Yeah see that's part of the problem. Creating a strain on the current system doesn't really affect the developer. It doesn't affect his bottom line because the issue doesn't arise until completion of sales.

[Koru]

Yeah see that's part of the problem. Creating a strain on the current system doesn't really affect the developer. It doesn't affect his bottom line because the issue doesn't arise until completion of sales.

How is that the Developers problem anyhow? Its up to the regional government to ensure that proper infrastructure is built to keep up with the pace of growth and development, not a private business. The local governments around the Malahat have really dropped the ball in terms of looking at expansion or traffic flow solutions for the region, as it is inevitable the continued growth north of the "hat" will occur well into the future. Don't blame a responsible developer who is reclaiming a former Concrete Plant and creating a sustainable and livable community on a space that is otherwise wasted and an eyesore.

[Ms. B. Havin]

^ Exactly, guyinthesky. Well put.

[LJ]

And when they build that highway link from deep cove to Mill Bay so much of the traffic that is on the Malahat now will be removed it will be a breeze to drive.

[G-Man]

I wish they had allowed that bridge it would have been very cool.

[justaguy]

I'm curious, I wonder if any of the posters/respondents to this thread (besides Becky) are investors in this project via the developer's company or from the surrounding lands?

[VicHockeyFan]

I'm curious, I wonder if any of the posters/respondents to this thread (besides Becky) are investors in this project via the developer's company or from the surrounding lands?

I've got a cool $2M riding on this baby.