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[Bicycles] Regional Trails in Victoria: Galloping Goose, Lochside, Trans-Canada & E&N


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#1121 lanforod

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Posted 11 January 2024 - 11:16 AM

When I towed my kids in a Chariot, bollards were a real hassle (i don't have the Chariot anymore). I think the same goal can be achieved by ensuring there is at least 5 to 6 feet of free space on either side of the bollard, and if not possible, use flexible ones.



#1122 Mike K.

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Posted 12 January 2024 - 09:30 AM

If they’re supposed to absolutely ensure no vehicles enter the trail, it may be tough with flexible bollards.

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#1123 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 12 January 2024 - 09:51 AM

Bollards on trails are there for safety

 

The bicycle community is asking the Capital Regional District to remove bollards from the regional trails. It is felt that the bollards pose risks to the riders.

 

I would beg to differ and would say that the bollards should be considered “traffic calming” for those using the trails.

 

They exist in places where extra caution is required — where the trails cross a road. All those crossing the road should proceed slowly rather than racing on through.

 

Often there is a stop sign for both road traffic and cyclists. The cyclists choose not to heed the directions to stop or even slow down. They often pass each other as they cross the intersection.

 

The rail trail crosses the street on which I live and I observe this cavalier behaviour on a daily basis. One of these days there will be a serious accident involving a bicyclist, a pedestrian and/or an auto.

 

Please consider the bollard a reminder that you are approaching a road and you need to slow down and proceed with caution.

 

These are the rules of the road for all!

 

 

Jose Perena Pratt

View Royal

 

 

 

https://www.timescol...roposal-8099458

 

 

Often there is a stop sign for both road traffic and cyclists. 

 

 

 

Often?   Is there no consistency at these crossings?


Edited by Victoria Watcher, 12 January 2024 - 09:56 AM.


#1124 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 18 January 2024 - 03:40 AM

Updated Saanich active transportation plan focuses on road safety

With 96 actions aimed at building on walking and cycling networks and improving high-risk crossings, the key is figuring out how to pay for it all

https://www.timescol...-safety-8127105

Edited by Victoria Watcher, 18 January 2024 - 03:40 AM.


#1125 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 23 February 2024 - 06:36 AM

On one hand, View Royal mayor and council pleaded the CRD to keep rigid bollards on regional trails.

 

On the other, a letter from Saanich begs the regional group to remove them.

 

Both cite safety as the top concern.

 

From a CRD perspective, the rigid bollards have two functions, to prevent unauthorized vehicle access and to provide a visual indication for trail users that they are approaching an active intersection, according to a staff report written in response to the letters.

 

The subject also spurred a passionate response from the community, said director Jeremy Caradonna.

 

“I’ve always thought of bollards as our friends,” the city of Victoria councillor said. “There are some very harrowing stories I read in the last couple days.”

 

After reading dozens of stories of people who broke legs and bones, he’s now determined they pose a danger.

 

“Why are they hitting them so hard they’re having these serious accidents?” director Scott Goodmanson countered later in the meeting. “They’re placed in the spots where we’re saying to users ‘slow down (and) focus’.”

 

 

https://www.vicnews....project-7320648

 

 

 

 

 

 

When I was in junior high school I cut through a construction zone on my bike and ran squarely into a horizontal 2x4 at about chest height that I did not see.  No broken bones, but I was badly messed up.  I do not doubt you can be hurt ruinning into these things, but I'm not sure the best cyclists ever hit them.


Edited by Victoria Watcher, 23 February 2024 - 06:40 AM.


 



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