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#1 Bob Fugger

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Posted 11 October 2011 - 09:05 AM

Jesus tap-dancing Christ, I can't believe that this position pays $70k+ benefits.

http://www.victoria....cov_posting.pdf

All told, why does a city of under 80k need a gold plated civic engagement advisor that is remunerated in the 100k+ range? And let's be honest, Civic Engagement Advisor is just a fancy name for a PR person. As evidenced in the JSB debacle, the City has no interest in genuine engagement - they just want to be able to sell you bridges, a bloated management structure and how necessary property tax increases are.

No wonder I pay nearly $6k per year in property taxes. Phucking brigands.

#2 MarkoJ

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Posted 11 October 2011 - 09:38 AM

Well....this will be offset by increasing building permit fees, property taxes, etc. - this in turn will somehow allow for affordable housing?

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#3 Rob Randall

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Posted 11 October 2011 - 10:01 AM

I thought that Planning Department fee increases were rolled back into Planning to pay for increased staffing there.

These staffing changes came out of the Cuff Report that was commissioned during the Lowe administration.

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Posted 11 October 2011 - 10:21 AM

Jesus tap-dancing Christ, I can't believe that this position pays $70k+ benefits.

http://www.victoria....cov_posting.pdf

All told, why does a city of under 80k need a gold plated civic engagement advisor that is remunerated in the 100k+ range? And let's be honest, Civic Engagement Advisor is just a fancy name for a PR person. As evidenced in the JSB debacle, the City has no interest in genuine engagement - they just want to be able to sell you bridges, a bloated management structure and how necessary property tax increases are.

No wonder I pay nearly $6k per year in property taxes. Phucking brigands.


Well if that makes you mad then you will be happy to know that in all likelihood the position has already been filled by a friend of a friend and that the whole recruiting process is just to check a box on the compliance paperwork!

#5 Lorenzo

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Posted 12 October 2011 - 05:26 PM

Just a personal peeve, but I hate the all too frequently used term "stakeholder." Used 6 times in this ad.

Is Markson and that other person still under contract as the mouthpieces for the JSB project? Even though it was the Josephson woman on CFAX this morning touting the project!

#6 VicHockeyFan

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Posted 12 October 2011 - 08:50 PM

Is Markson and that other person still under contract as the mouthpieces for the JSB project? Even though it was the Josephson woman on CFAX this morning touting the project!


Markson has been gone for a while.
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#7 Lorenzo

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Posted 13 October 2011 - 05:12 AM

Thanks VHF. As usual, I am behind the times! :)

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Posted 15 October 2011 - 10:21 PM

Just a personal peeve, but I hate the all too frequently used term "stakeholder." Used 6 times in this ad.

Is Markson and that other person still under contract as the mouthpieces for the JSB project? Even though it was the Josephson woman on CFAX this morning touting the project!


Every time a government worker says or writes "stakeholder" on the job, a puppy gets cancer.

The correct word to use is "citizen".
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#9 SamCB

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Posted 15 October 2011 - 10:42 PM

stakeholder means more than just citizens. it also refers to organizations. literally any person or group who has something at stake. often corporations and municipalities as well as citizens. there really isn't a better word to use.

#10 Lorenzo

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Posted 16 October 2011 - 04:09 AM

Every time a government worker says or writes "stakeholder" on the job............


MarkCB, I know what it means.

Every time a government worker says or writes "stakeholder" on the job...........all I can think of is yet another MBA grad, soon to be followed by the words "concensus" and "paradigm".

#11 G-Man

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Posted 16 October 2011 - 06:15 AM

MarkCB is correct in fact stakeholder is rarely used to refer to the citizens of the province at least in the provincial government. Stakeholders are a collection of groups that are involved in a program or operation one of which may be the general public but more likely means a non-profit delivers service for a grant; another government agency or a private company.

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#12 Rob Randall

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Posted 16 October 2011 - 07:36 AM

^This is true. For example, when the City reviewed its recreation facility policy, all possible stakeholders were invited to a day-long workshop held at City Hall. Groups included resident associations, heads of various sports organizations, seniors groups and others with a serious interest--a stake--in how these facilities are planned. Sure, they could have invited random people instead--citizens, as you prefer to say--but that would be a different type of information gathering session.

#13 Linear Thinker

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Posted 28 October 2011 - 11:37 AM

Jesus tap-dancing Christ,

How ironic you should choose those words....
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