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#1 Mike K.

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Posted 13 October 2011 - 08:27 AM

Does anyone else get the sense that the NDP's sudden rush to support David Cubberly in Saanich has been fueled by what the NDP machine sees as an alignment of the stars? There is an NDP council/mayor in Victoria, NDP MLA's, NDP MP and with the HST boondogle there's a higher likelihood of an NDP majority in the next provincial election. Add to that Cubberly and pro-NDP councillors in Saanich and all of a sudden the whole south Island is painted orange.

Political leanings aside, this could benefit the south Island tremendously with the province finally doling out cash for infrastructure projects put into place by municipal NDP supporters. On the other hand, of course, a one party government could also lead us astray with even more (and unchallenged) fiscal imprudence at Victoria's City Hall.

This could also mean that should the Johnson Street Bridge run into financial troubles the province could step in with a surprise funding announcement and bail the project out. In fact there is a high possibility of this if Mayor Fortin is re-elected and the NDP swoop in after the next provincial election.

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#2 ZGsta

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Posted 13 October 2011 - 11:05 AM

It would be nice to have a provincial government that actually gives a damn about the capital of the province.

#3 Baro

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Posted 13 October 2011 - 11:33 AM

If I recall, even under npd governments the island always gets shat on.
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Posted 13 October 2011 - 12:07 PM

If I recall, even under npd governments the island always gets shat on.


This.

#5 Schnook

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Posted 13 October 2011 - 12:38 PM

We're in deficit now. We'll be in deficit for years to come, even with an HST windfall (shhhhhh). It'll take 20 years at least to pay for the Johnson Street Bridge, never mind white elephants like the sewage project or LRT.

Ain't no money. Ain't gonna be no money. Doesn't matter where you live or what you tax. Just look south. What's happening there is going to spread here. (I know, I know; you're thinking: "Ridiculous!") JUST WAIT.

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#6 VicHockeyFan

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Posted 13 October 2011 - 12:47 PM

I agree with Schnook.

Leonard will win Saanich anyway.
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#7 Mike K.

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Posted 13 October 2011 - 01:16 PM

Aren't the largest and most ambitious public work projects initiated in difficult economic times?

If I recall, even under npd governments the island always gets shat on.

- HWY 1 construction in Victoria with interchanges between Saanich and Langford
- HWY 17 interchanges in Saanich and North Saanich
- inland Island Highway between Parksville and Comox
- Nanaimo bypass project
- they also tried to create a faster connection to the Island with the Fastcats.

I wouldn't call that getting shat on, exactly.

Leonard will win Saanich anyway.


I don't doubt that at all, but it makes one wonder why the NDP is so desperate all of a sudden to get control over Saanich.

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#8 maniac78

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Posted 13 October 2011 - 01:30 PM

Double C has been given until March to turn the polls around and that was before her "jobs plan tour" bombed. I think there's still time for the Liberals to dump her and find someone electable.

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Posted 13 October 2011 - 04:21 PM

Leonard will win Saanich anyway.


This municipal election is more important to the NDP than any other in history. Remember that Andrew Petter was the NDP MLA for Saanich South during the last NDP reign. Saanich is no stranger to them.

I am sure that this municipal campaign across the province will oil the NDP wheels for the next provincial election.

They can smell victory. I can hear the drums banging now.

I don't think that Leonard is safe.

The Arab spring may have come to Greater Victoria.

#10 VicHockeyFan

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Posted 13 October 2011 - 07:05 PM

This municipal election is more important to the NDP than any other in history. Remember that Andrew Petter was the NDP MLA for Saanich South during the last NDP reign. Saanich is no stranger to them.

I am sure that this municipal campaign across the province will oil the NDP wheels for the next provincial election.

They can smell victory. I can hear the drums banging now.

I don't think that Leonard is safe.

The Arab spring may have come to Greater Victoria.


Saanich South does not include a bunch of Saanich municipal areas that are in OB Gordon Head (Ida Chong) area, like Ten Mile Point.

I grew up in Saanich, my mother still lives there. Saanich is content with Leonard, I hope. Cubberly is no freakin' saviour.
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#11 Sparky

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Posted 13 October 2011 - 07:16 PM

^ Politically I agree with you. I am just afraid of what the left wing zealots are capable of.
It's Saanich (west of the pat bay highway) that will be the area to watch.

I am sure Mike will have an eye on this one for his "left wing" thesis. :)

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Posted 13 October 2011 - 07:23 PM

^ Politically I agree with you. I am just afraid of what the left wing zealots are capable of.
It's Saanich (west of the pat bay highway) that will be the area to watch.

I am sure Mike will have an eye on this one for his "left wing" thesis. :)


I suppose if Elizabeth May can take the peninsula, anything is possible. But she did it with major national troops, at the expense of all else nation-wide.

Cubberly can't rely on that kind of support team, and I truly think Saanich voters are with Leonard, he is very well liked, even-keel kind of guy.
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#13 Sparky

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Posted 13 October 2011 - 07:27 PM

^ Agreed, not to mention that he has sat in the chair for a very long time.

The Gary Lunn loss was a shocker for me.

#14 Schnook

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Posted 13 October 2011 - 08:19 PM

Many people don't like Adrian Dix. He is an NDP achilles heel, with the perception that he is "hard line" and lacking in charisma. That matters to a lot of people who don't ordinarily think in terms of issues.

Thinking about it some more, I can't even recall what the guy looks like. He doesn't garner media attention like past figureheads.

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Posted 14 October 2011 - 10:27 AM

At least Saanich will have an interesting race, whichever way it goes. I hope Frank is re-elected. But I have seen the NDP organizing prowess. If they go all out for a favourite son, Cubberly, they will be a force to be reckoned with.
In Victoria there is no race at all. With all due respect to Paul Brown, it's very disappointing that some strong business candidate didn't step up to give Dean a real challenge.

#16 VicHockeyFan

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Posted 14 October 2011 - 11:17 AM

In Victoria there is no race at all. With all due respect to Paul Brown, it's very disappointing that some strong business candidate didn't step up to give Dean a real challenge.


I agree. Victoria is done.
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#17 Barra

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Posted 14 October 2011 - 11:47 AM

Aren't the largest and most ambitious public work projects initiated in difficult economic times?

- HWY 1 construction in Victoria with interchanges between Saanich and Langford
- HWY 17 interchanges in Saanich and North Saanich
- inland Island Highway between Parksville and Comox
- Nanaimo bypass project
- they also tried to create a faster connection to the Island with the Fastcats.

I wouldn't call that getting shat on, exactly.


Mike - you need to have a more in-depth look at who was representing these areas when the money tap was turned on. I believe that the first two are located in what was Gary Lunn's riding. Gary, of course, was in the inner circle of the Conservative government, which had (and still has) infrastructure dollars to spread around.
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#18 Ms. B. Havin

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Posted 14 October 2011 - 09:42 PM

Just noticed that two fringe-like candidates have declared a run at the Victoria mayoral seat. This will surely split votes from Paul Brown, diminish his (imo already low) chances, and Dean Fortin is likely already celebrating his November win.
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Posted 14 October 2011 - 10:43 PM

Mike - you need to have a more in-depth look at who was representing these areas when the money tap was turned on. I believe that the first two are located in what was Gary Lunn's riding. Gary, of course, was in the inner circle of the Conservative government, which had (and still has) infrastructure dollars to spread around.


Uh, no, Mike's right. These projects are all from the 1990s, and transportation is 90% a provincial responsibility (both to fund and to manage). The Conservatives were not in power federally or provincially in the 1990s, and Gary Lunn was just a random green-gilled Reformer from the Island who first took office in 1997, long after the funding and approval for any of the projects Mike listed.

 



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