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[DustMagnet]

THERE IS MORE TO THE STORY. too bad the reporter never asked any questions.

the reporter also earns minimum wage we should not expect much.

 

At least the reporter is able to work.

[Victoria Watcher]

and we paid for that article exactly what it’s worth. $0.

[Victoria Watcher]

At least the reporter is able to work.

obviously never suffered a hiking accident in the past decade.

[Love the rock]

If I was the reporter I wouldn’t print this story it doesn’t make sense. How can someone who is on disability who can’t work ,has no where to live afford to start a business ?Somethings missing here . She might have to move to a smaller community where her disability cheque will go farther for housing .Feel bad for the kids tho .Parts of this story are definitely omitted .We heard a similar story last year right before school started it proved to be full of half truths .

[Mike K.]

The article states the mother has expanded her housing search to Vancouver, where she currently resides adjacent to her parent’s fifth wheel trailer.

[Nparker]

The article states the mother has expanded her housing search to Vancouver...

This aught to solve her affordability problem.

[Victoria Watcher]

according to this document the bc housing budget has/will increase from $820 million to almost $1.6 billion from 2017 to 2021. 

 

https://www.bchousin...lan-2018-21.pdf

 

Housing subsidies make up the majority of BC Housing’s expenditures, accounting for 78 per cent of the total expenses. These are ongoing subsidies provided to non-profit societies as well as one-time capital grants for new construction or renovation of subsidized housing. Beginning in 2018/19, significant increases to housing subsidies reflect one-time capital grants provided to new projects and the commencement of ongoing operating and support subsidies once the projects are operational. Funding reflects the new projects captured within the 2018/19 – 2020/21 Service Plan period, including 2,000 units of modular supportive housing, 1,000 units of permanent supportive housing for individuals experiencing or at risk of homelessness and/or substance abuse challenges, 800 units of transition housing for women and children fleeing abuse, and 9,200 units of affordable rental housing for singles, families, seniors, and Indigenous peoples.

 

housing subsidies go from $572 million to $1.26 billion.

Edited by Victoria Watcher, 01 September 2019 - 03:48 AM.

[A Girl is No one]

Ugh.... the poverty industry is alive and well in B.C. and the future looks even brighter.

[spanky123]

^ and yet the more money we pour into affordable housing the more people we have needing services. 

 

If you are busting your butt at minimum wage trying to make a living you are far better off economically to just give up, have a poverty pimp find some disability designation for you and then sit back and collect all of the freebies. Personal pride and self esteem used to prevent people from doing that.

[Victoria Watcher]

^ and yet the more money we pour into affordable housing the more people we have needing services. 

 

If you are busting your butt at minimum wage trying to make a living you are far better off economically to just give up, have a poverty pimp find some disability designation for you and then sit back and collect all of the freebies. Personal pride and self esteem used to prevent people from doing that.

 

i agree with this.  except one part.  almost nobody is busting their butt at minimum wage.  if they are a good worker they will soon make much more money.

Edited by Victoria Watcher, 01 September 2019 - 11:03 AM.

[DustMagnet]

^ and yet the more money we pour into affordable housing the more people we have needing services. 

 

If you are busting your butt at minimum wage trying to make a living you are far better off economically to just give up, have a poverty pimp find some disability designation for you and then sit back and collect all of the freebies. Personal pride and self esteem used to prevent people from doing that.

 

Maybe those went out the window with personal responsibility - there's no shame if everything is someone else's fault.

[Victoria Watcher]

I was prepared for an interesting read until I got to this part:



The average rent for a one-bedroom apartment in Victoria has skyrocketed past $1,100 a month, which is entirely unaffordable for the vast majority of people.


https://www.timescol...tage-1.23944942


because that’s just plain incorrect.

Edited by Victoria Watcher, 25 September 2019 - 05:25 AM.

[Jackerbie]

I was prepared for an interesting read until I got to this part:



The average rent for a one-bedroom apartment in Victoria has skyrocketed past $1,100 a month, which is entirely unaffordable for the vast majority of people.


https://www.timescol...tage-1.23944942


because that’s just plain incorrect.

 

Which part?

[Victoria Watcher]

the part about the “vast majority of people” being unable to afford $1100/mo. for shelter. let’s assume he means adult Victorians. the “vast majority” already pay more than that with rent or mortgages and taxes and maintenance.

[Sparky]

We are not in the “midst” of a housing shortage. That would mean that we are in the middle of a housing shortage and that this shortage will end at some point in time.

Not going to happen. The demand for housing will continue to exceed the supply until a plague or large disaster wipes out a large portion of the population.

Living in Greater Victoria will continue to be unaffordable except for the wealthy and the highly motivated.

[aastra]

 

The demand for housing will continue to exceed the supply until a plague or large disaster wipes out a large portion of the population.

 

Or, until we stop acting like the last ~60 years of demand was some temporary aberration and start building for reality (again). Young people are convinced that today's circumstances are some unprecedented "new reality" thing, never realizing that their parents and their parents' parents were trained to think the same way. (Lurkers who don't know what I'm talking about: check out the thread "The more Victoria changes, the more it stays the same").

[Victoria Watcher]

until that urban containment boundary is lifted not much will change for sure. and nobody is going to ok serious sewer water line or reservoir capacity increases.

[Nparker]

until that urban containment boundary is lifted not much will change for sure...

Or we stop letting NIMBYs dictate low-density housing policy.

[aastra]

I've made this point before: if Saanich were to have the same population density as Victoria city, the population of Saanich would be 460,000 (flip it around for further enlightenment: if Victoria city were to have the same population density as Saanich, the population of Victoria city would be less than 25,000! (it would be the 1890s all over again)

 

People defend Victoria city every day for how nice it is, how comfortable it is, even for how supposedly low-density and slow-paced it is. Victoria isn't dense like Shanghai. Victoria isn't dense like Manhattan. Victoria isn't even dense like Vancouver's downtown peninsula. And yet if Saanich were to adopt Victoria's own comfortable formula it would mean there's room for an additional 345,000 people within the confines of Saanich alone.

 

Too scary? Okay, so slash the goal by half. If Saanich were half as dense as Victoria city, the population of Saanich would be 230,000.

 

Still too scary? Okay, so be super timid and add a mere 25,000 in Saanich, a mere 2,500 in Esquimalt, and a mere 2,500 in Oak Bay.

 

In other words, even if Victorians decide that Victoria city's own model is too intensely urban and too super high-density, and even if Victorians totally chicken out and aim for only a fraction of Victoria city's density... there's still room for many tens of thousands of additional people in the heart of Greater Victoria. On existing streets, in existing neighbourhoods. You'd just need to have fewer parking lots, more apartment buildings, more townhouses, smaller yards, less space between houses. No need for any expansion into wilderness beyond the confines of the existing CMA.

 

But aastra! That would be crazy! Victoria-style population densities would ruin Victoria! etc.

[lanforod]

What would the population of Saanich be if it had the same density within the UCB only? It's bad to compare to the entire area of Saanich, as much of Saanich is protected farmland or woods.

 

For reference, 5070 Ha within the UCB, 10732 altogether.

 

It'd be close to your 230k figure. I don't see any issue with that in Saanich; however we don't have a real downtown here to build dense condos. Uptown area could use them, sure, but there isn't really any other area that works for that. I'd be happy if 25 30 storey towers went up around there though, it'd be great.

Edited by lanforod, 25 September 2019 - 09:39 AM.