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#1061 Wayne

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Posted 04 January 2019 - 08:27 PM

the green new deal by us democrats will see most fossil fuels phased out by 2030.


Have to wonder, is this the beginning of the end of fossil fuel.

Federally (Current Liberals)would look to going that way. Provincial, the same?

A lot of noise but not real solutions on the way ahead.

#1062 rjag

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Posted 04 January 2019 - 08:32 PM

the green new deal by us democrats will see most fossil fuels phased out by 2030.

 

Going to take a heck of a lot of solar panels and wind turbines to displace this

 

https://www.eia.gov/...il.php?id=36612

 

I think the shortfall is not looking at Nuclear for electrification of the grid with renewables such as solar and wind etc filling in the gaps



#1063 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 05 January 2019 - 05:46 AM

the us only currently generates 11% of their electricity from renewables and that includes hydro. so not only do you have to replace all their current electricity generating that currently uses coal and gas but you also have to increase it to generate the energy for vehicles and all the currently oil and gas heated homes and businesses. so of course it’s impossible by 2030. it’ll take until at least 2050 just to increase the grid capacity let alone building solar and windmill farms.
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#1064 jonny

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Posted 05 January 2019 - 09:02 AM

the green new deal by us democrats will see most fossil fuels phased out by 2030.


lol wut?

The date was 2040 for all new light duty vehicles to be zero emissions. It's an aspirational date to make supporters feel good and like the government is doing something. There's a good chance John and Andrew will be dead by then. They certainly won't be in government.

And that leaves nothing to be said for trucks, busses, trains, planes, ships, ferries, boats and the multitude of other ways we use fossil fuels like for electricity, plastics, rubbers, etc.

#1065 tjv

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Posted 05 January 2019 - 09:32 AM

Well we could go a little bigger...

 

http://thinkpol.ca/2...western-canada/

Not a chance in hell do I want to merge with the Newfoundland of Western Canada, Alberta.

 

Friends in Alberta say to expect a mass worker exodus to BC as mass layoffs are starting.  It will be interesting to see if it happens as they are going to be in for sticker shock at house/rental prices



#1066 rjag

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Posted 06 January 2019 - 08:59 AM

https://www.resource...oal-perspective

 

 Canada's oil sands have 1/20th the emissions of American coal plants

 

 

Perhaps instead of taxing our personal carbon usage we should all pay a tax towards converting every single coal fired power plant in Canada and the US...


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#1067 RFS

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Posted 06 January 2019 - 09:24 AM

Not a chance in hell do I want to merge with the Newfoundland of Western Canada, Alberta.

Friends in Alberta say to expect a mass worker exodus to BC as mass layoffs are starting. It will be interesting to see if it happens as they are going to be in for sticker shock at house/rental prices


I doubt it. There is still lots of work out there and the patch will bounce back eventually. Alberta’s population is forecast to exceed British Columbia’s within the next few decades. Immigrants are choosing it because there are jobs and lower cost of living
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#1068 rjag

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Posted 07 January 2019 - 10:24 PM

https://www.jwnenerg...pipeline-route/

 

 
​Development agreements signed with all elected Indigenous bands along LNG Canada pipeline route
 

 

 
and yet....

#1069 tjv

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Posted 07 January 2019 - 10:47 PM

I doubt it. There is still lots of work out there and the patch will bounce back eventually. Alberta’s population is forecast to exceed British Columbia’s within the next few decades. Immigrants are choosing it because there are jobs and lower cost of living

You should listen to the news, its pretty bleak coming out of Alberta, plus housing prices continue to plummet.  The friend who told me how bad it is has lost well over 100k in 4+ years since buying in Calgary.  The oil patch has been down for 10 years and there is no projection when it will rebound, heck they just cut production across the board



#1070 jonny

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Posted 08 January 2019 - 09:36 AM

 

https://www.jwnenerg...pipeline-route/

 

 
 
and yet....

 

 

Clark, Harper, Trudeau and Horgan did not nip this in the bud so to speak and now we have a culture in BC where the protest movement controls the airwaves, social media, the courts and the politics. They all allowed and in some cases encouraged these side shows, expecting it to just go away. Now the money and the momentum is flowing better than ever. They have allowed the anti-industry extremists to control the narrative. 

 

I hope this blows up in the protesters faces. They are the ones on the wrong side of history.  

 

Who speaks for indigenous people on this issue?

 

A bunch of white folks in Victoria? A couple of dozen protesters on a remote road in Houston? The First Nations LNG Alliance? 

 

https://www.fnlngalliance.com/



#1071 spanky123

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Posted 08 January 2019 - 09:44 AM

^ And yet we have a Mayor who protests oil companies but encourages more than 2 million tourists a year to drive their cars or take a cruise here and happily hops flights to China and SF for fanciful trips. 


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#1072 Jackerbie

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Posted 08 January 2019 - 09:48 AM

Clark, Harper, Trudeau and Horgan...

 

No, see, that's your first mistake. These guys are our elected leaders. You gotta go to our hereditary leaders, Wayne Gretzky and Celine Dion.


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#1073 jonny

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Posted 08 January 2019 - 09:55 AM

No, see, that's your first mistake. These guys are our elected leaders. You gotta go to our hereditary leaders, Wayne Gretzky and Celine Dion.

 

lol



#1074 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 12 January 2019 - 07:50 PM

PAR PACIFIC BUYS TACOMA REFINERY, AIMS TO UP OIL SHIPPING ON SALISH SEA
More vessel traffic is never good news for the imperiled orca pods and oil spill risks are likely to increase.

https://www.sightlin...ing-salish-sea/

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#1075 LeoVictoria

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Posted 13 January 2019 - 02:55 PM

You should listen to the news, its pretty bleak coming out of Alberta, plus housing prices continue to plummet. The friend who told me how bad it is has lost well over 100k in 4+ years since buying in Calgary. The oil patch has been down for 10 years and there is no projection when it will rebound, heck they just cut production across the board


By the time they figure out their distribution problems global oil demand will be on the downward slope.

#1076 MarkoJ

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Posted 13 January 2019 - 04:15 PM

By the time they figure out their distribution problems global oil demand will be on the downward slope.

 

What is the projected year that we will see a downward slope?


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#1077 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 13 January 2019 - 04:16 PM

maybe when we plateau out at 9B earthlings. not for a while.

#1078 rjag

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Posted 13 January 2019 - 04:51 PM

What is the projected year that we will see a downward slope?

 

Dont ask Jeff Rubin!!!



#1079 LeoVictoria

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Posted 13 January 2019 - 07:58 PM

What is the projected year that we will see a downward slope?


Between 2025 and after 2040 depending on who you ask.

#1080 Mike K.

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Posted 16 January 2019 - 12:25 PM

🚔 Demonstration at West Shore RCMP Detachment West Shore 🚔

On January 16, 2019 at 09:00 am approximately 40 pipeline demonstrators disrupted community policing operations at West Shore RCMP detachment. Demonstrators gathered in front of the RCMP detachment while officers stood by to keep the peace.

The demonstration group blocked public access to the police building using three vehicles. Several community volunteers for the West Shore RCMP Speedwatch Program were unable to leave the front of the detachment in the community sponsored van. A 79 year old volunteer for the West Shore RCMP Keep in Touch program also had to be escorted past the protest by police officers for a scheduled meeting inside the building. Police emergency operations were not affected by the protest.

The RCMP fully support the right to peaceful and safe protest, says Cpl. Chris Dovell of the West Shore RCMP, but businesses and community volunteers also have the right to conduct meetings.

The group also demonstrated at Premier John Horgan's Office located in Langford. As a result of the demonstrations, there were disruptions to vehicle traffic on Veterans Memorial Parkway, Jacklin Road and Goldstream Avenue. There were no arrests made.

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