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#1101 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 19 February 2019 - 01:54 PM

ok well the cbc has some type of voodoo math then.



Provincial officials say the program will cost $3.7 billion over three years and result in $5.9 billion in revenues over the same period. The anticipated net revenue is $2.2 billion over the same period.

https://www.cbc.ca/n...e-oil-1.5024665

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#1102 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 20 February 2019 - 05:35 AM

and like magic today a new cbc article:



That's why industry experts say the government's commitment to spend billions of dollars on crude by rail is a gamble. In fact, it may prove to be an unnecessary investment and put a significant amount of taxpayer money at risk.

"There's no reason why private sector companies couldn't have done this on their own — and, in fact, they have been doing it on their own," said Robert Cooper, with the institutional sales and trading team at Calgary-based investment firm Acumen Capital Partners.



https://www.cbc.ca/n...cn-cp-1.5025055

#1103 rjag

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Posted 20 February 2019 - 07:28 AM

It would have been good if they applied that same logic of private sector risk to the pipeline.... frigging hypocrisy

#1104 lanforod

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Posted 20 February 2019 - 08:22 AM

I thought our rails were pretty much maxed out? Am I wrong?



#1105 DustMagnet

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Posted 20 February 2019 - 09:42 AM

Well, aren't they twinning the line through East Vancouver?



#1106 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 20 February 2019 - 09:46 AM

maybe not maxed out but less efficient as more traffic is added.  more trains have to wait on sidings or in yards for other trains to pass etc.



#1107 RFS

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Posted 20 February 2019 - 07:20 PM

Lisa Helps has accepted an invitation from a Calgary city councillor to visit an Alberta oil sands project

https://globalnews.c...ject-visit/amp/

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Posted 21 February 2019 - 08:11 AM

Lisa Helps has accepted an invitation from a Calgary city councillor to visit an Alberta oil sands project

https://globalnews.c...ject-visit/amp/

 

The councilor is a fool. Helps is already in the media playing this up. She has no intention of using the trip as any sort of fact finding mission. She will go there, criticize her hosts and then come back to her base and say that her beliefs have been confirmed.


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#1109 jonny

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Posted 22 February 2019 - 09:23 AM

 

 

The National Energy Board delivered its reconsideration report to the federal government Friday with an overall recommendation that the Trans Mountain Expansion Project is in the Canadian public interest and should be approved.

 

https://vancouversun...uld-be-approved

 

Waiting on more details...


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Posted 22 February 2019 - 09:27 AM

https://vancouversun...uld-be-approved

 

Waiting on more details...

 

Dont worry, the wing nuts will ask for more funding from their US puppet masters and fight on



#1111 RFS

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Posted 22 February 2019 - 09:38 AM

https://vancouversun...uld-be-approved

 

Waiting on more details...

 

Just when Trudeau could really use a distraction too...



#1112 jonny

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Posted 22 February 2019 - 10:00 AM

 

News Release
For Immediate Release

February 22, 2019 – Calgary – National Energy Board

The National Energy Board (NEB) today delivered its Reconsideration report to the Government of Canada, with an overall recommendation that the Trans Mountain Expansion Project (Project) is in the Canadian public interest and should be approved.

 

The NEB will impose 156 conditions on the Project if it is approved, and has made 16 new recommendations to the Government of Canada. The recommendations relate to matters that fall outside of the NEB’s regulatory mandate, but within the authority of the Government of Canada.

 

The Reconsideration report concludes that Project-related marine shipping is likely to cause significant adverse environmental effects on the Southern resident killer whale and on Indigenous cultural use associated with the Southern resident killer whale. The NEB also found that greenhouse gas emissions from Project-related marine vessels would likely be significant. While a credible worst-case spill from the Project or a Project-related marine vessel is not likely, if it were to occur the environmental effects would be significant. While these effects weighed heavily in the NEB’s consideration of Project-related marine shipping, the NEB recommends that the Government of Canada find that they can be justified in the circumstances, in light of the considerable benefits of the Project and measures to minimize the effects.

 

The considerable benefits of the Project include increased access to diverse markets for Canadian oil; jobs created across Canada; the development of capacity of local and Indigenous individuals, communities and businesses; direct spending on pipeline materials in Canada; and considerable revenues to various levels of government.

 

The Reconsideration specifically examined the impacts of Project-related marine shipping related to the application of the Canadian Environmental Assessment Act, 2012 and the Species at Risk Act (SARA) , as per the Government’s direction to the NEB in September 2018. The NEB has completed the Reconsideration within the 155 day timeline required by the Government of Canada.

 

If the Project is approved by the Government, the company must comply with 156 conditions, covering a wide range of matters including: emergency preparedness and response, protection of the environment; consultation with affected Indigenous communities; socio-economic matters; pipeline safety and integrity; commercial support for the Project prior to construction; and financial responsibility on the part of the company.

 

In addition, the NEB has made 16 recommendations to the Government of Canada related to Project-related marine shipping, including: cumulative effects management for the Salish Sea, measures to offset increased underwater noise and increased strike risk posted to SARA-listed marine mammal and fish species, marine oil spill response, marine shipping and small vessel safety, reduction of GHG emissions from marine vessels, and the Indigenous Advisory and Monitoring Committee for the Project.

 

Quote

“As indicated in the NEB’s report, the NEB has delivered a comprehensive, evidence-based, fair and meaningful review of Project-related marine shipping, within the timeline required by the Government of Canada. The NEB listened to a range of diverse views and carefully considered all of the evidence submitted, the results of which are reflected in the conclusions, conditions and recommendations presented in the report.”

– Dr. Robert Steedman, Chief Environment Officer, National Energy Board

 

Quick Facts:

 

  • The NEB was given 155 days to complete its reconsideration.
  • In the Reconsideration hearing, there were:
    • 118 Intervenors who participated, including 52 Indigenous groups and individuals, and 8 federal government departments.
    • 81 Intervenors who filed written evidence
    • 44 Intervenors who asked information requests of other Parties (including of Trans Mountain and federal government departments)
    • 25 individual Oral Traditional Evidence sessions in Calgary, Victoria and Nanaimo
  • The Reconsideration hearing offered a fair and meaningful opportunity to Parties to participate and to fully present their case and represent their diverse points of view. This included an opportunity to comment on the scope of the environmental assessment and the design of the hearing process, file evidence, present Indigenous oral traditional evidence, question the evidence of other parties, comment on the draft conditions and recommendations, and present final argument.
  • The NEB’s Reconsideration report has now been submitted to the Government of Canada. The report is one of the factors that the Government will consider when making the final decision on whether or not the Project should proceed.

 

https://www.neb-one....9/nr04-eng.html

 

Man, this news release by the NEB throws nitroglycerin on the fire...



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Posted 22 February 2019 - 11:09 AM

BC Ferries has announced they're adding 2,700 trips per year, but as we all know only oil tankers have significant negative environmental effects. Increases to passenger and car ferries, cargo vessels, and cruise ships are completely different marine traffic and 100% acceptable.


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#1114 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 22 February 2019 - 11:58 AM

BC Ferries has announced they're adding 2,700 trips per year, but as we all know only oil tankers have significant negative environmental effects. Increases to passenger and car ferries, cargo vessels, and cruise ships are completely different marine traffic and 100% acceptable.

 

The Ministry of Transportation said service on those routes was cut back in 2014.

The routes that will see increased service are:

  • Crofton – Vesuvius.
  • Earls Cove – Saltery Bay.
  • Horseshoe Bay – Bowen Island.
  • Port Hardy – Mid Coast — Prince Rupert.
  • Haida Gwaii – Prince Rupert.
  • Powell River – Texada Island.
  • Nanaimo Harbour – Gabriola Island.
  • Campbell River – Quadra Island.
  • Quadra Island – Cortes Island.
  • Skidegate – Alliford Bay.

 

https://www.cbc.ca/n...tions-1.5030073

 

yes gabriola (population 4100) only has 12 return trips per day now that really needs an increase.  bowen (3500 population) has up to 16 per day now.


Edited by Victoria Watcher, 22 February 2019 - 12:04 PM.

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#1115 Matt R.

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Posted 22 February 2019 - 12:18 PM

Good ol’ Skeena Queen just keeps on truckin.

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#1116 Jackerbie

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Posted 16 April 2019 - 02:17 PM

Out of curiosity, how much is the price swinging day to day in Victoria? Regular gas was 169.9 yesterday morning and 149.9 in the evening, back to 169.9 this morning and current 159.9

 

And this is all at the same station, mind you.



#1117 Mike K.

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Posted 16 April 2019 - 02:24 PM

It’s static here. Some stations are priced at 161.9 but it’ll stay that way all day.

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#1118 Jackerbie

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Posted 17 April 2019 - 09:09 AM

It’s static here. Some stations are priced at 161.9 but it’ll stay that way all day.

 

Odd that it's stable when the mainland is all over the place. 145.9 last night, 170.9 this morning. Again, exact same Chevron station by my place in Richmond.



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Posted 17 April 2019 - 09:27 AM

Out of curiosity, how much is the price swinging day to day in Victoria? Regular gas was 169.9 yesterday morning and 149.9 in the evening, back to 169.9 this morning and current 159.9

 

And this is all at the same station, mind you.

 

That is the nice thing about Victoria, you never have to guess who has the best price. Aside from Costco, every gas station of every brand usually has the same price. Just a coincidence though!


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#1120 Jackerbie

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Posted 17 April 2019 - 09:39 AM

That is the nice thing about Victoria, you never have to guess who has the best price. Aside from Costco, every gas station of every brand usually has the same price. Just a coincidence though!

 

Prices in Richmond are generally the same from station to station (our local Costco does not have a gas bar), it's time of day where we see things swinging wildly. Usually it was just a couple cents here and there, but the differences have been massive so far this month.



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