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#1 HB

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Posted 31 January 2012 - 11:15 PM

That's right. I go into this store everyday.

I first noticed it about 5 days ago.

This evening I was in there and it is far worse than yesterday.

The amazing thing is that the store is still open and full of customers.

It appears that a tenant operating a night club in the basement removed one or more supporting posts to make there dance floor larger.

the part of the floor in Value Village that is sagging appears to be an area of about 200- 300 sq ft

I find it odd that the public is allowed into the building. I went back this evening and they have now cleared all of the merchandise from the area.

This is a major breach of the building structure

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Posted 31 January 2012 - 11:41 PM

http://www.clubzone....t-room-victoria

This is downstairs// not sure if still open

#3 Mike K.

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Posted 01 February 2012 - 07:55 AM

200 - 300 sq ft of Value Village would be about 10% or so of the gross floor area of the store?

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Posted 01 February 2012 - 08:47 AM

At 10% that would make it 2000 to 3000 sq ft total on that floor My guess is that it is maybe 5% ..regardless the sag is noticeable and my personal thought is that it is risky to have people in there because with a load bearing support or 2 gone if it does collapse it could take more than just the sag out with it.
If this was happening in a public building it would be closed until fixed.

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Posted 01 February 2012 - 09:57 AM

I bet a CoV building inspector would love to be all over this one

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#6 D.L.

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Posted 01 February 2012 - 11:53 AM

I been in the Sunset Room and there is a support column in the middle of the dance floor. I only remember there being one though.

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Posted 01 February 2012 - 12:06 PM

TC story:

http://www.timescolo...5435/story.html

#8 Mr_E_Squirrel

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Posted 01 February 2012 - 12:09 PM

TC story:

http://www.timescolo...5435/story.html



Nice from the above link Times Colonist story with VV Credit The sagging floor was first noticed by bloggers on the Vibrant Victoria website, who questioned why customers would still be allowed in a store with what could be a potential structural problem.

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Posted 01 February 2012 - 12:10 PM

TC story:

http://www.timescolo...5435/story.html


The sagging floor was first noticed by bloggers on the Vibrant Victoria website, who questioned why customers would still be allowed in a store with what could be a potential structural problem.


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#10 Phil McAvity

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Posted 01 February 2012 - 12:11 PM

At 10% that would make it 2000 to 3000 sq ft total on that floor My guess is that it is maybe 5%.


Assuming the 200-300 sq/ft number is right then i'd say it's even less. More like 2%. Value Village is pretty big. I'd say the Starvation Army Thrift store at Johnson and Wharf is probably 2000-3000 sq./ft and Value Village is much bigger than that. What kind of moron takes out a supporting beam and doesn't think there will be consequences? :rolleyes:
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#11 Mike K.

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Posted 01 February 2012 - 12:18 PM

That is commendable of the TC to refer to and credit History Buff's post here. Thanks, TC :)

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#12 gumgum

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Posted 01 February 2012 - 01:27 PM

Two credits to VV in one day!

#13 Bingo

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Posted 01 February 2012 - 01:56 PM

The building was once a Kelly Douglas warehouse, and had a rail car siding at the right side of the front of the building. They ran around inside with forklifts, so I think the present space can hold a few pots and pans and used clothing.

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Posted 01 February 2012 - 05:48 PM

Poster, contributor, but please - don't call us bloggers.


That is a pet peave of mine when anyone refers to postings on a forum as blogging, or a forum as a blog.

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Posted 01 February 2012 - 10:07 PM

^I testified in court after I witnessed a minor car accident and posted the photos here. I had to correct the judge and say "no, Vibrant Victoria is not a blog it's a discussion forum". I've never seen lawyers look so confused.

There seems to be disagreement on whether a support column was removed.

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Posted 01 February 2012 - 10:14 PM

Wow ...Ive been reading VV for a few years and just started an account here a couple months ago to contribute.
Was anyone aware that the TC reads theses forums?

I went back in there today and there is another section that seems to be sagging now.
Someone has taken a Core sample from the floor and it looks like it IS a a concrete floor with a thickness of about 8 inches.

Interesting that one person says a support was removed and the TC story says nothing was done.


I remember in the 1980's after Kelly Douglas had moved to Viewfield Rd in Esquimalt ( the current Superstore Warehouse) the Value Village building operated as a large indoor market with kiosks selling things such as Fresh Produce, nick knacks, antiques and some Fast food stalls.

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Posted 01 February 2012 - 10:24 PM

Nicely done History Buff.

4 posts and being picked up by the TC.....gotta be a record. :)

#18 Rob Randall

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Posted 01 February 2012 - 10:52 PM

Was anyone aware that the TC reads theses forums?


Believe me, every local media person reads this forum.

I remember in the 1980's after Kelly Douglas had moved to Viewfield Rd in Esquimalt ( the current Superstore Warehouse) the Value Village building operated as a large indoor market with kiosks selling things such as Fresh Produce, nick knacks, antiques and some Fast food stalls.


I believe there is a public market thread here that also contains a link to a Ross Crockford article that refers to that market.

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Posted 02 February 2012 - 07:45 AM

Jason Guille, proprietor of the Sunset Room nightclub located below Value Village, had the following to say about the post we made on I Heart Downtown Victoria's Facebook page:

hi all. jason guille here, owner of Sunset Room. we havent made any structural changes in the 5 years we have had the space - im not sure where that rumour began. people sure get angry fast dont they? we had some city engineers come through when the VV floor sagged, as i understand it there is a crawlspace above our concrete ceiling (their sub-floor) which caved in for some reason. good news is that doesnt seem like a major structural issue and i imagine will be patched up upstairs lickety split :) meanwhile, sunset will be open and dance will ensue. i hope our clients' magnetic personalities didnt have anything to do with this...


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Posted 02 February 2012 - 07:46 AM

TC story:

http://www.timescolo...5435/story.html



I think I am ready for the looney bin now.

Has this article been rewritten to eliminate reference to Vibrant Victoria?

I could have sworn it was mentioned yesterday.

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