BUILT 1008 Pandora Uses: rental, commercial Address: 1008 Pandora Avenue Municipality: Victoria Region: Downtown Victoria Storeys: 6 |
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[North Park] 1008 Pandora | Rentals; commercial | 6-storeys | Built - completed in 2019
#121
Posted 01 August 2013 - 02:48 PM
#122
Posted 01 August 2013 - 02:54 PM
#123
Posted 01 August 2013 - 02:58 PM
#124
Posted 01 August 2013 - 02:58 PM
#125
Posted 01 August 2013 - 03:00 PM
#126
Posted 01 August 2013 - 03:14 PM
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#127
Posted 01 August 2013 - 04:04 PM
I have a 6-storey building across the street from my home. What's your point?
I thought this poster's idea earlier in the thread was a much better, and actually similar to what the neighbours said, about concentrating the density on the pandora side, and the massing stepped down to mason st, which is only one lane:
Of course I'd rather see a couple of taller towers with more open green space between them (an extension of Franklin Green perhaps?) but why aim for the stars when you know you won't even make it to the top of the hill?
oh wait YOU said that!?!? what happened? it would also work within the current bylaw concerning the traffic, which came up at the top of page 5. & while you're there might as well see post #115
more posts from earlier in the thread:
I'm not thrilled about it. I don't find the massing to be very attractive and I question whether such a large footprint is appropriate for that area. I'd prefer to break it up.
It is a very urban building in an area that is transitional, meaning an area between downtown and North Park's SFDs.
(emphasis added)This area acts as a good buffer between Downtown and the smaller residences of North Park and Hillside/Quadra.
However, Pandora Avenue is targeted for high-density mixed-use in the new Official Community Plan's Strategic Directions for North Park.Strategic directions include:
21.20.3
Establish a high density mixed use area along Pandora avenue that responds to the surrounding skyline of visually prominent heritage landmarks.
I suspect "visually prominent heritage landmarks" is a politically correct way of saying "church steeples". Incorporating the St. Andrews tower would be the best way of obeying this suggestion.
That's funny, I'd say the ideal configuration would be something like the 834 on Pandora and 4-5 stories on the rest of the site.
I can understand why they wouldn't want part of Mason turned into a loading area. But I hope they see the benefits of density. Smart density though? Torn.
^ Agree Aastra. Also by the site plan I can see that there is only the one cut out. I could even see the density just transferred. Go for 6-7 on the Pandora side and 4-5 on the Mason side. Still even as is I am likely to speak in favour at a public hearing.
some of you guys are hilarious. sometimes I think the people on this forum are just as mindlessly for something as people against. strongarming the neighbours by buying all the houses across the street, or dead-ending mason st? perfect examples of trying to make the circumstances & context fit the project, when it should always be the other way around. meathead solutions, & nobody wins in that case.
edit: edited to not look like I'm throwing gumgum under the bus. people were making sense right at the beginning, but then seemingly got behind the first thing that came up, just to get it done.
#128
Posted 01 August 2013 - 04:12 PM
#129
Posted 01 August 2013 - 04:16 PM
#130
Posted 01 August 2013 - 04:51 PM
I'm actually shocked the developed never tried to buy all or most of the houses on mason. It's a great potential for some town-houses or 3-4 story apartments. Build them with similar set-backs as the funky furniture store and coffee place and include some ground floor retail near vancouver. Heck, turn the whole street into a shared-use plaza along with a shared driveway for the building.
#131
Posted 01 August 2013 - 05:08 PM
I haven't posted on here in ages, but since this is MY neighbourhood I had to speak up. If the NIMBYs kill this project I serioulsy hope the developer holds onto the land and lets it fall into total ruin. Then when the derelict shell of the school, by then a needle-filled flop house, burns to the ground some night the NIMBYs will get exactly what they deserve.
As I understand the developer did not purchase the property in the end and its still owned by the Catholic School Society
#132
Posted 01 August 2013 - 05:22 PM
As I understand the developer did not purchase the property in the end and its still owned by the Catholic School Society
The sale was always subject to rezoning, it was not likely to ever change hands until rezoning. It's zoned institutional.
#133
Posted 04 August 2013 - 03:07 PM
The North Park Local Plan identifies the subject lands as, as well as the lands on the north side of Mason Street, as an area of "major change predicted".
Staff note that the retention of the school's tower meets some of the city's urban design objectives for this site. For instance, the NPLP identifies the street corner of Vancouver Street and Pandora Avenue as a street-head site and further identifies the school as a landmark within the neighbourhood. There is also an inflection in the street grid at this corner which provides the opportunity for a terminated vista looking north up Vancouver Street.
This [Pandora] frontage is unique in that the applicant proposes the retention of the school tower. In the opinion of staff, the surrounding street wall height should, in some way, respect and acknowledge the height and visual prominence of the school tower so the proposal for a lower street wall than that which is anticipated by the DCAP is acceptable.
there still seem to be the issues of the mid-block shortcut, traffic on mason, and the private courtyard though. I don't remmeber if they got sorted out yet or not. Something else I noticed that wasn't in the report or mentioned elsewhere was how this might look from mason st, behind the mcdonald's. if you look to the west there's that big old church building on quadra, but we don't know what we would see looking the other direction, towards the school building. wouldn't want it to be a loading dock or something.
as for the block to the north between mason & balmoral, how about something like this to enclose the park on the north side
http://www.flickr.co...N02/4635001972/
or maybe this
http://www.architect...ect-images/8188
PS- sorry everybody. try not to rub it in too much
#134
Posted 04 August 2013 - 05:49 PM
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#135
Posted 07 September 2013 - 01:59 PM
#136
Posted 07 September 2013 - 02:03 PM
Just got a call from Centus Research, doing a survey for Thrifty Foods, asking if I would shop at a new downtown Thrifty at Pandora and Vancouver, and whether it made any difference to me if it had underground parking. Will we hear soon that the St. Andrews project is being revived?
Didn't Skinner and Campbell have a bit of a gentlemen's agreement not to compete downtown? I guess that deal died.
#137
Posted 07 September 2013 - 02:46 PM
#138
Posted 07 September 2013 - 02:52 PM
We've also heard about a phone survey asking about a potential Thrifty's location at Douglas and Pandora
That would be funny, eh? Hudson says they tried for years but never attracted a grocery tenant, then Thrifty's moves in next door.
#139
Posted 11 September 2013 - 08:01 AM
A "gentleman's agreement" would be between gentlemen. Since the Campbells are long gone from the operation of Thrifty's why would it still be in place?Didn't Skinner and Campbell have a bit of a gentlemen's agreement not to compete downtown? I guess that deal died.
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#140
Posted 24 February 2014 - 09:11 PM
Chris Dikeakos Architects - http://www.dikeakos..../pandora-street
Compare to the renderings we've seen earlier
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