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[FogPub]

Is that Saanich one for Gordon Head Rd?

 

Sure hope it's not for Shelbourne.....

[rjag]

Is that Saanich one for Gordon Head Rd?

 

Sure hope it's not for Shelbourne.....

 

Shelbourne cock-up starts this fall 

[Jackerbie]

It's Shelbourne, phase 1 of the Shelbourne Valley Action Plan. If I remember correctly, Saanich has a much wider road allowance than what is built in most places, so they've got wiggle room to add new bike lanes if the sidewalks are moved further away from the road.

[lanforod]

It's Shelbourne, phase 1 of the Shelbourne Valley Action Plan. If I remember correctly, Saanich has a much wider road allowance than what is built in most places, so they've got wiggle room to add new bike lanes if the sidewalks are moved further away from the road.

 

I don't recall much plan to widen the road though. Mostly to drop a lane.

[Jackerbie]

I don't recall much plan to widen the road though. Mostly to drop a lane.

 

The concept is here for those curious: https://www.saanich....SVP_PHASE 1.pdf

[Nparker]

So no changes to Shelbourne south of McKenzie? 

[rjag]

So no changes to Shelbourne south of McKenzie? 

 

its going to be single lane each way except near the intersection...

[Jackerbie]

So no changes to Shelbourne south of McKenzie? 

 

its going to be single lane each way except near the intersection...

 

It's a long street so it will be completed in phases. The complete concept is here, but this is not the final design: https://www.saanich....ign concept.pdf

 

Phase 1 is Torquay to McKenzie. Design stage should be wrapping up right about now, with construction expected later this year or early 2020.

 

Phase 2 is North Dairy to Pear Street, and Phase 3 is Pear to McKenzie.

Edited by Jackerbie, 30 May 2019 - 03:51 PM.

[Nparker]

No matter how it's phased it's a total f-up to vehicular movement in Gordon Head.

[Nparker]

There's not enough money to keep people safe on Canada Day, but the CoV has no problem funding a communications consultant to promote "awareness" for a year.

...Traffic changes coming to accommodate the new bike lanes being built on Wharf and Humboldt streets have the city looking to hire a communications consultant to plan a year-long road-user awareness campaign...The consultant is also expected to hold an opening celebration to mark the completion of the project...

https://www.timescol...anes-1.23841787

Presumbly, no police presence will be required to ensure crowd safety at the opening celebration.

Prospective bidders can find out more about this position here (no details or cost to taxpayers are available to non-registered vendors.)

[mbjj]

What a ridiculous bunch of hooey it all is. I hope there's a huge crowd for Canada Day spilling all the way up Government Street, lol.

[rjag]

Wife and I drove downtown and parked near Capital Iron so we didn't have to pay for parking...walked through Chinatown and along Govt St to the new Customs House development. I haven't been down that way in 3-4 months. We walked back along Wharf.

 

Now note the bike lanes on Humboldt and the lost parking that was always highly used by the Empress.

 

Gotta say Wharf is a recipe for increased collisions now. It is so narrow and with no dedicated left turn onto Fort its gotta be a sh!tshow and explains why traffic has been backing up to the bridge.

 

Whoever thought putting bike lanes on that stretch of road needs to have their head examined. Looking at the mess it becomes even more clear that Government would have been a better choice. 

Edited by rjag, 02 June 2019 - 06:00 PM.

[Brantastic]

Wife and I drove downtown and parked near Capital Iron so we didn't have to pay for parking...walked through Chinatown and along Govt St to the new Customs House development. I haven't been down that way in 3-4 months. We walked back along Wharf.

 

Now note the bike lanes on Humboldt and the lost parking that was always highly used by the Empress.

 

Gotta say Wharf is a recipe for increased collisions now. It is so narrow and with no dedicated left turn onto Fort its gotta be a sh!tshow and explains why traffic has been backing up to the bridge.

 

Whoever thought putting bike lanes on that stretch of road needs to have their head examined. Looking at the mess it becomes even more clear that Government would have been a better choice. 

Wharf Street probably has the highest bike ridership for any Greater Victoria street that doesn't currently have bike lanes, but the existing scenario where bikes are forced to weave in and out of parking stalls and traffic seemed more like an accident waiting to happen than the new design. If any street downtown ever deserved bike lanes more than any other, it's Wharf. 

[rjag]

Wharf Street probably has the highest bike ridership for any Greater Victoria street that doesn't currently have bike lanes, but the existing scenario where bikes are forced to weave in and out of parking stalls and traffic seemed more like an accident waiting to happen than the new design. If any street downtown ever deserved bike lanes more than any other, it's Wharf. 

 

Its swapping one problem for another thats not an improvement

[Hotel Mike]

You're both right. Wharf Street is already a zoo. With the addition of the bike lanes, and narrowing of the roadway, conflict is bound to happen. I just hope it's nothing worse than a few fender benders. The good side of this however, is that it will get the bicycles off the actual road. Not only is it dicey for them, but having bikes next to the cars traffic on Wharf currently is a tricky situation.

[DustMagnet]

Residents seek protected bike lane to connect Victoria and Oak Bay

 

https://www.vicnews....ia-and-oak-bay/

 

At 12 per cent, Oak Bay has the highest percentage of any cycling commuters riding to work in Greater Victoria.

 

 

On the one hand, it's surprising that given the uptake there isn't already the infrastructure.  On the other hand, I guess dedicated cycle commuters are willing to tough it out as far to the right as practicable whereas it's not a good option for families.

 

Despite that, there is no protected route from Oak Bay to Victoria for cyclists, something that’s long overdue, said Greater Victoria Cycling Coalition’s Corey Burger.

 

 

 

Man, this guy is in every local cycling article... 

[Cats4Hire]

Wait more people are cycling to Victoria from Oak Bay than Sidney? Next you'll tell me Uvic also has more people arriving via bike from Oak Bay than Sidney.

[DustMagnet]

Wait more people are cycling to Victoria from Oak Bay than Sidney? Next you'll tell me Uvic also has more people arriving via bike from Oak Bay than Sidney.

 

Where did Sidney come into this?  Because they have the Lochside Trail but have fewer cycling commuters?

[Coreyburger]

Man, this guy is in every local cycling article...

Almost like it's part of my role at the GVCC or something

[Cats4Hire]

Where did Sidney come into this?  Because they have the Lochside Trail but have fewer cycling commuters?

I'm saying obviously either Oak Bay, Esquimalt or Saanich would be #1 cycling into Victoria because they touch it. I bet I can tell you the top 3. Even with the Lochside trail it's further and harder to convince people to ride from Sidney than it is to convince them to ride from Oak Bay.