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#101 Koru

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Posted 05 August 2008 - 09:50 AM

A derrick crane has just showed up at Cherry Bank site, usually a sign the crane is coming down, surprises me slightly because they only have windows up to the 4th floor...

#102 Mike K.

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Posted 05 August 2008 - 02:16 PM

It never ceases to amaze me at the speed with which Campbell Construction operates. Cherry Bank went up in no time, and compared to Juliet (Farmer), Aria went up in no time.

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Posted 05 August 2008 - 03:02 PM

It never ceases to amaze me at the speed with which Campbell Construction operates. Cherry Bank went up in no time, and compared to Juliet (Farmer), Aria went up in no time.


The speed at which a multi-storey concrete building can cycle through a floor has about 75% to do with building design and only about 25% to do with the company building it.

Example, Farmer is rocking those simple square boxes at Dockside green, whereas Campbells Chelsea took almost a year to pour a couple floors of concrete. Why? It's all about the design, floorplans, column locations, walls, architectural concrete.

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#104 Koru

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Posted 05 August 2008 - 03:08 PM

The speed at which a multi-storey concrete building can cycle through a floor has about 75% to do with building design and only about 25% to do with the company building it.

Example, Farmer is rocking those simple square boxes at Dockside green, whereas Campbells Chelsea took almost a year to pour a couple floors of concrete. Why? It's all about the design, floorplans, column locations, walls, architectural concrete.

That's my story, and I'm sticking to it.


I'm certainly going to have to agree for the most part with Zim on this one!

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Posted 05 August 2008 - 03:33 PM

I'll second the motion. Floor layout, column locations can kill speed especially when moving flyforms on a high rise.

I guess Campbell is all done their contract at Cherry Bank. Denford Construction, the general contractor, will finish it off pretty quick I'm sure.

#106 Koru

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Posted 05 August 2008 - 04:00 PM

I'll second the motion. Floor layout, column locations can kill speed especially when moving flyforms on a high rise.

I guess Campbell is all done their contract at Cherry Bank. Denford Construction, the general contractor, will finish it off pretty quick I'm sure.


Sounds like it, I know Campbell moved their trailers off last week as well...The finishing certainly has been moving at a fast clip in comparison

#107 Mike K.

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Posted 05 August 2008 - 10:13 PM

So what was the hold-up at both Corazon and Juliet? It seems like those projects took a very long time to complete, whereas Aria went up surprisingly quickly (considering its unique shape and relatively large floorplate).

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#108 Koru

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Posted 06 August 2008 - 11:46 AM

So what was the hold-up at both Corazon and Juliet? It seems like those projects took a very long time to complete, whereas Aria went up surprisingly quickly (considering its unique shape and relatively large floorplate).


Without being able to speak directly on either of those jobs, it could be a wide range of holds up in the time its taken to complete the jobs. I've been on a few jobs over the last few years and I've found when you are building a multi-storey concrete structure, you almost always have changes of some form, from engineers and architects, this can certainly add time to a job, especially if they involve certain parts of a slab or columns. There can be problems in materials arriving (precast, rebar, stone, brick, angle iron etc) there can be problems from the developer in terms of paying trades which slows work up, there can be issues in the permit process, labor shortages, so forth and so on. I haven't been here since the beginning on any of those jobs, but there can also be problems in the excavation and blasting that can cause jobs to have a slower than normal start. Now that being said I've only covered a few of the reasons a job can take an extended period of time without accounting for the 25% of the crews/companies being hacks and I'm sure there are some other seemingly knowledgeable people out there that could add their insight as well!


PS - The Crane is now down at the Cherry Bank, they are pulling out the last mast section as I write this...

#109 Mike K.

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Posted 06 August 2008 - 03:49 PM

Thanks, gis. I find this sort of stuff very interesting, given the differences in pace from one similar project (at least to a layman) to the next.

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#110 aastra

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Posted 07 October 2008 - 06:21 PM

Some pictures on their website from last month:



Very nice view:



Pictures from http://www.cherrybank.ca/

#111 yodsaker

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Posted 07 October 2008 - 09:09 PM

We parked in front of Cherry Bank last Saturday and were quite disappointed from the last time we had a look about a month ago.
The front elevation seems to have lost its setbacks, just a flat frontal wall rising from grade, not clmbing the hill.
And two very small entryways (if they are the front doors, can anyone confirm this?) that look quite inelegant. A "luxury" condo should have an entrance, not just single doors.

#112 aastra

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Posted 08 October 2008 - 11:44 AM

Good question about the front entrance. Those are townhouse entrances along the front, right? Also, there are going to be two vehicle entrances on this place, yes? What's that all about?




#113 yodsaker

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Posted 08 October 2008 - 05:34 PM

Townhouse entries would explain it then.
I didn't know there would be THs, I thought it was a 100% apt. condo.
Thanks for the pic aastra, I had not really looked at it closely before and I can see where it led me to think there would be more of a staggered frontal elevation. Its quite a bit more massed in actuality, IMO.

#114 Rob Randall

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Posted 08 October 2008 - 08:56 PM

When I attended the Council meetings for this project there was a bit of discussion on whether this should be townhouses or retail at ground level and it was quickly decided that townhomes would be best right now.

Also, I remember someone at Council or ADP looking at an photo map and asking why there wasn't a mid-block walkway between the Cherry Bank and the Savoy and the architect had to say, "Uh, it's a twenty foot drop" and the guy says, Oh yeah, I guess you can't tell from an overhead view.

#115 zoomer

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Posted 09 October 2008 - 06:20 PM

Pictures I took on Sept 30







#116 aastra

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Posted 09 October 2008 - 06:58 PM

I'd say that rendering was off by quite a bit with regard to the colour of the bricks.

#117 Ms. B. Havin

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Posted 09 October 2008 - 07:31 PM

... someone at Council or ADP looking at an photo map and asking why there wasn't a mid-block walkway between the Cherry Bank and the Savoy and the architect had to say, "Uh, it's a twenty foot drop" and the guy says, Oh yeah, I guess you can't tell from an overhead view.

Right, but it's at least that much between Fairfield and Humboldt, and there's a very nice stairway mid-block connector running inbetween the Astoria and the Belvedere. So maybe it wasn't an unreasonable question after all...?
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#118 aastra

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Posted 09 October 2008 - 08:05 PM

But, seriously, to compare little old Victoria to the great French capital is frankly ridiculous, in my humble estimation.



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#119 Holden West

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Posted 09 October 2008 - 08:29 PM

^That's the world's most awesome wheelchair ramp. Gangway!!!
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#120 Ms. B. Havin

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Posted 09 October 2008 - 08:37 PM

^ That's a lovely one!

If you want to see a really ugly one, see Here’s Your Public Benefit: An Anorexic Version of Harbor Steps.

The public walkway / stairway is -- oh, maybe 0.2% of what it should be?

It's like a chicken coop ladder.

Here's one picture:

I'm glad no one has proposed anything quite as mingy as that for downtown Victoria (even factoring in our reduced scale/ lesser elevations).

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^That's the world's most awesome wheelchair ramp. Gangway!!!


Typically added for strollers, or wheeling bikes down, or luggage.
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