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#261 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 14 March 2019 - 08:02 AM

Reminds me of the Air France flight (447) where two young pilots crashed a perfectly flyable A330 from 38,000 feet to the ocean because over the course of 4+ minutes they couldn't figure out they were stalled because one sensor malfunctioned and the plane kicked out of autopilot. 


https://youtu.be/I7D-m6PqoFc     53 minute documentary on #447.


more than one mistake there.

Edited by Victoria Watcher, 14 March 2019 - 08:08 AM.

#262 Kungsberg

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Posted 14 March 2019 - 08:23 AM

the boxes have arrived in france. 



The black boxes from the Ethiopian Airlines crash are being sent to France instead of the US — a sharp break with precedent that could be seen as a deliberate snub

Ethiopian Airlines' director of public relations said that sending the data recorders to Europe and not the US was a strategic decision for the airline and the Ethiopian government, Bloomberg reported.

The US initially hesitated to ground the 737 Max, even as the European Union and several countries banned the planes from their airspace. The US on Wednesday reversed its decision.


Bloomberg described the decision as a sign that authorities in the US "aren't trusted to determine the cause of the disaster after ruling that the model is safe to fly."


The US has a subordinate role in the investigation. The US National Transportation Safety Board said on Thursday that it is dispatching three investigators to France to assist with analysis. It said they are "being assisted by technical advisers from the Federal Aviation Administration, Boeing and GE/Safran, the manufacturer of the engines." 




Boeing's CEO reportedly asked President Trump not to ground the company's plane that has crashed twice in 5 months

As the European Union and many countries throughout the world were moving to keep Boeing 737 Max 8s, the plane involved in Sunday's Ethiopian Airlines crash, out of their airspace, the plane maker's CEO was apparently working behind the scenes to keep the same from happening in the US. 

Dennis Muilenburg, CEO of Chicago-based Boeing, spoke with President Donald Trump on the phone on Tuesday morning to keep the plane from being grounded in the US, The New York Times reported, citing two people familiar with the call.


Trump did little to quell fears about the plane's safety when he tweeted without evidence on Tuesday that modern planes were becoming "too complex to fly." Data show that air travel has become significantly safer in recent decades despite the two recent crashes.

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