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#821 aastra

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Posted 23 May 2024 - 11:58 AM

Perceptions about perception:

 

 

Times-Colonist
May 23, 2024

Survey finds Victoria residents feel less safe downtown, day or night

"But what captures the media’s attention is when something negative happens. And that does tend to fuel part of the perception issue," he said. "Of course, there are challenges downtown, but I would say that there is still a bit of a disconnect between the reality of being downtown versus the perception."

 

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Times-Colonist
April 16, 2023

Victoria businesses walk a tightrope over perception of downtown

While businesses are hearing negative perceptions of downtown, they are also dealing with the day-to-day reality that it isn’t all doom and gloom.

Erin Boggs, partner in Robinson's Outdoor Store on Broad Street, added that while the store is doing really well they experience shoplifting several times a week and their frustration is growing.

While it’s a challenge, Boggs said they are still trying to find that delicate balance about raising their concerns and not wanting to scare people away from downtown.

“That’s why we’ve always remained really positive and not really spoken about it..."

 

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Times-Colonist
Jan 28, 2015

More than half of the survey respondents felt that crime had either decreased or stayed the same, which is in line with local and national trends that crime is steadily decreasing. At the same time, 62 per cent said they had been the victim of a crime in the past five years. Elsner said that doesn't reflect Victoria police's crime statistics and suggested some people might have the perception they have been victimized after a scary encounter.

 

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The Vancouver Sun
November 28, 1991

Beggars, teens scare shoppers from core

Profane street kids and persistent panhandlers are driving Victoria shoppers away from the downtown area and into suburban malls.

That's the finding of a recent survey of 699 Victoria-area shoppers commissioned by the Victoria Business Improvement Association...

...the survey showed only a third of respondents regularly shop downtown. More than half said they shop at one of Victoria's three out- lying malls - Hillside, Mayfair and Tillicum.

Respondents criticized downtown Victoria for lacking the cleanliness, convenience and free parking of the malls. They also expressed concern for their personal safety in the city core.

Eighty-eight per cent of respondents said increased police presence should be part of any downtown revitalization efforts.

Despite consumer fears, both LeGros and Victoria police Insp. Brian Hayes said few crimes are actually committed against shoppers walking on streets.

"Some groups of young people pose a perceived threat to older shoppers. They often block sidewalks and shout obscenities."

 

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Times-Colonist
February 9, 2003
 
Give our regards to Broad Street Series: The Red Zone
 
As Stuart Clarke touted the benefits of street revitalization, a greasy-haired young man with khaki pants and a weathered overcoat bolted from his store with $1,000 in merchandise. Clarke had been talking about how improvements to Broad Street had chased away some of the street people from around Robinson's Outdoor Store and neighbouring shops.
 
The police and city officials acknowledge problems with addiction and homelessness and have developed a downtown action plan that also involves health officials.
 
Most say Victoria has one of the safest downtowns in North America. Others say the street population problems are chasing away tourists and shoppers.
 
Still others suggest IT IS ALL ABOUT PERCEPTION.

 

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So is it true? Is our personal reality shaped by our perception re: choosing to be fearful about things or choosing not to be fearful about things? They sure do hammer this point for some reason.


Edited by aastra, 23 May 2024 - 12:07 PM.


#822 Nparker

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Posted 23 May 2024 - 01:21 PM

Each person's perception is their reality.



#823 todd

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Posted 24 May 2024 - 01:27 PM

Lots of people are too vain to wear glasses.

#824 Tony

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Posted 14 June 2024 - 06:17 PM

Perhaps the perception of the majority or the informand majority is close to a reality or the reality if one exists?



#825 AllseeingEye

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Posted 18 June 2024 - 01:45 PM

Not Victoria but a very interesting comparison with Halifax - size wise probably the closest equivalent in the country to this city - and attitudes there re: building height, as they look to complete their tallest building at 111.xx meters:

 

https://www.cbc.ca/p...video/9.6420521

 

NOTE this building BTW is on the north west arm of Halifax, right on their waterfront. Imagine the equivalent being built here on the harbour or especially Dallas Road. Retailers here would run out of pitchforks! :)


Edited by AllseeingEye, 18 June 2024 - 01:47 PM.


#826 Mike K.

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Posted 18 June 2024 - 06:20 PM

The tallest Harris Green tower is about that height.

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#827 AllseeingEye

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Posted 18 June 2024 - 06:26 PM

Did you watch the video? That is a 32/33 floor building (depending how you look at it - as explained in the clip). There is no building that height in Harris Green. If the Starlight proposal actually proceeds as originally envisioned, then there will be.



#828 Mike K.

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Posted 18 June 2024 - 08:14 PM

No, it's not built yet, but that height is already approved in Victoria.

 

Kelowna has both cities beat.


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#829 Nparker

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Posted 18 June 2024 - 08:29 PM

The tallest Harris Green tower is about that height.

No, it's not built yet, but that height is already approved in Victoria..

With each passing day the Harris Green project seems more "if" than "when".



#830 Mike K.

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Posted 18 June 2024 - 09:08 PM

Maybe it’ll come back at 45 storeys.

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