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[FogPub]

In the TC today is an article about the CoV's new automated pothole finder.

 

Buried in that article is a bit saying that of the CoV's 279 km of roads, about 2 km gets repaved per year.

 

So, taking that as an average, any given street will be repaved once per 135-ish years.

 

Might explain some things.......

[Nparker]

In the TC today is an article about the CoV's new automated pothole finder....

They used to just be called vehicle drivers. 

[lanforod]

Really should be upping that to about 50 km /year. yikes.

[Mike K.]

Does repaved mean tearing up the asphalt and replacing it with fresh asphalt, or just plugging up potholes and fixing the cracks? Some of the ruts in the city are nuts. Not just potholes, but melted asphalt that bounces you around like a ping pong.

[FogPub]

^ I assume it means a total repave,

 

I mean, really: at a dead minimum the main bus routes should be fully redone every 5 years (at least the lanes the buses use), other lanes and non-bus arterial roads every ten years, feeders every 20, and residential every 30.  This in addition to fixing potholes and cracks as needed.

[Mike K.]

Yes, it’s important.

Meanwhile, isn’t traffic data showing fewer cars entering the downtown core?

[Ismo07]

^ I assume it means a total repave,

 

I mean, really: at a dead minimum the main bus routes should be fully redone every 5 years (at least the lanes the buses use), other lanes and non-bus arterial roads every ten years, feeders every 20, and residential every 30.  This in addition to fixing potholes and cracks as needed.

 

You want Douglas to be completely repaved every 5 years? Maybe 10-12 years is a little more feasible.  I find it interesting when people complain about the roads but on the other hand when work is being done, complain about the construction...

Edited by Ismo07, 09 March 2023 - 03:41 PM.

[Victoria Watcher]

Doubt you will find many on this forum complaining about roadworks. As long as it’s not road diets or reducing lanes.

[Ismo07]

Doubt you will find many on this forum complaining about roadworks. As long as it’s not road diets or reducing lanes.

 

Well I mean on other media sites..  No one here would complain...

[Mike K.]

There’s also the cost-sharing or happenstance scenario for road work, like if hydro has to cut up the road for something or a new water main is going in, the City will budget paving to coincide with the work.

[lanforod]

You want Douglas to be completely repaved every 5 years? Maybe 10-12 years is a little more feasible.  I find it interesting when people complain about the roads but on the other hand when work is being done, complain about the construction...

 

Hot in place asphalt resurfacing. Not down to gravel and redo the whole road.

[Victoria Watcher]

It’s actually impressive how long quiet residential streets can last between paves. I grew up on a 1960’s street and it has never been repaved. Still showing no signs of wear really.

Edited by Victoria Watcher, 10 March 2023 - 08:46 AM.

[FogPub]

Hot in place asphalt resurfacing. Not down to gravel and redo the whole road.

Can hot-in-place be feasibly done where there's drains and manholes all over?  The only place I've ever seen it done is on open highways.

 

Never mind some of the roads have reached the state where they really do need down to the gravel re-dos.

[lanforod]

Good point. I dunno

[lanforod]

Seems like a solveable problem though.

[Mike K.]

Grumpy Taxpayers:

“Bartlett says these tax dollars could have gone instead to help fix up our dreadful roads. In 2012, 85 percent of all roads were judged to be in very good or good condition. By 2022, that plummeted to 23 percent as a result of the failed governance decisions of the last two administrations.”

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They are indeed shockingly awful.

[Nparker]

...They are indeed shockingly awful.

Shock-absorbingly awful in fact.

 

I'd argue the poor condition of CoV streets is a deliberate part of the ongoing war on cars.

[Daveyboy]

^^

Family visiting from White Rock commented within 5 minutes of arriving with "Why are the roads over here in such terrible shape?  Worst we have ever seen!"

[Mike K.]

Eight years of the former mayor, that’s why, I guess.

Now all politics aside, we have also seen a sustained construction boom, meaning roads over the past decade have seen more truck traffic than in the 90s and 00s.

[Nparker]

...we have also seen a sustained construction boom, meaning roads over the past decade have seen more truck traffic than in the 1990s and 2000s.

That construction boom has brought increased property tax revenue (not to mention building permit income) to the CoV, some of which should be going towards proper road maintenance.