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[Jackerbie]

So we can get high in public but not drunk...that seems odd. 

 

Not necessarily. The interpretation of the law will be subject to debate, as the regulation makes no mention of drunkenness to my knowledge. Rather, it is against the law to be intoxicated in a public place, and there is no definition of intoxication. It is assumed that this obviously refers to alcohol, but now the courts will have to decide whether the effects of marijuana also qualify as intoxication. I say yes.

 

It is entirely possible to smoke or consume cannabis without becoming mind-numbingly high, just as it is possible to consume liquor without becoming black-out drunk. It's that grey area of "I only had one marijuana cigarette, officer," that will be tested in the courts soon enough.

 

And for the record, consumption of liquor in public shouldn't be illegal in my mind. Montreal seems to be doing OK with it.

[Star Dust]

It’s a stimulant not a depressant. No one is bumbling out in traffic after smoking some pot. I recommend all the against crew go out and try it so you don’t sound like your only knowledge on the subject comes from Reefer Madness....

 

Actually CBD & THC (the most active chemical ingredients in Marijuana)  are in themselves  medically classified as  "Depressants" do to the characteristics it delivers to the user such as muscle relaxation, tiredness, decreased alertness and sedation. In relation directly to Marijuana ,  Marijuana has also been medically and clinically proven to be able to worsen some mental illnesses, like anxiety, depression, short-term psychosis, suicidal thoughts and schizophrenia.

 

Keep in mind I am talking specifically about Marijuana and not alcohol or any other substance.

[dasmo]

From the sounds of it, it'll be harder to smoke the stuff after legalization, than before. What with the no smoking within X meters of a doorway, or in a workplace, etc. etc.

Maybe this is a new tactic in the War on Drugs - legalize the stuff, then proceed to demonize it like they did with tobacco and slowly relegate the potheads to the far corner of the parking lot, like they were when I was in high school.

I used to always say the worst thing for a pot smoker is legalization....

[dasmo]

Actually CBD & THC (the most active chemical ingredients in Marijuana) are in themselves medically classified as "Depressants" do to the characteristics it delivers to the user such as muscle relaxation, tiredness, decreased alertness and sedation. In relation directly to Marijuana , Marijuana has also been medically and clinically proven to be able to worsen some mental illnesses, like anxiety, depression, short-term psychosis, suicidal thoughts and schizophrenia.

Keep in mind I am talking specifically about Marijuana and not alcohol or any other substance.

Have you ever tried it?

[todd]

I used to always say the worst thing for a pot smoker is legalization....

 

https://youtu.be/A42gGASPI58

[Star Dust]

Have you ever tried it?

 

Yup, and I experienced relaxation, tiredness, decreased alertness and sedation. So much sedation as a matter of fact, I could never stay awake more then an hour after smoking it.

 

Of course a heavy or frequent user of it (as in daily or someone who smokes it a few times a week) will build up a tolerance so those effects are less and or not as powerful. But one thing is for sure, no matter how many years you smoke it, no matter how much you consume in a 24 hour period.......you will always be Impaired by it to some extent

[dasmo]

The benefits of now is you know what you are smoking. Different strains give different results. In the past you got what you got. Now if you want to be sedated you can choose that. If you want to be creative or chatty or whatever you can choose it from a menu. It’s a darn shame I can’t smoke the stuff....

But yes, I would not recommend smoking and operating heavy equipment but walking the streets is perfectly safe....

[spanky123]

TC ran an opinion piece on Helps' leadership on pot issues on their front page today. http://www.timescolo...ules-1.23195076

 

Although the TC credits the author with having a Phd from UVIC, they fail to mention that he is also the manager of Trees Dispensary.

Edited by spanky123, 12 March 2018 - 09:48 AM.

[Nparker]

...Although the TC credits the author with having a Phd from UVIC, they fail to mention that he is also the manager of Trees Dispensary.

Yeah, that bit of information was conspicuous for its absence. 

[spanky123]

Yeah, that bit of information was conspicuous for its absence. 

 

I think that the TC needs to be careful with these types of ads. This is typical of the corporate political issue based ads that I have been warning about.

Edited by spanky123, 12 March 2018 - 10:10 AM.

[VicHockeyFan]

Yeah, that bit of information was conspicuous for its absence. 

 

No kidding.  Did theTC not ask that?

 

There was always risk involved in the city regulating dispensaries, including political backlash from more conservative Victorians who saw the move as abetting illegal enterprises. However, political developments at the federal and provincial levels have validated the early, but prudent, regulations from the city.

 

 

And Saanich will just bring in regulations and they never had to go through all the expense the City has.  That's the way this should have been done. 

[Nparker]

...And Saanich will just bring in regulations and they never had to go through all the expense the City has.  That's the way this should have been done. 

 

That's the part that was distinctly missing from the Opinion piece; what effects did not allowing the proliferation of illegal business have on all other municipalities in the CRD?

[VicHockeyFan]

https://vancouverisl...toria-1.3839999

 

Officers found the man a short distance away after he allegedly tried to hide two large boxes of cannabis that were destined for a storefront dispensary.

The federal government is in the process of legalizing recreational cannabis but storefront dispensaries are still considered illegal, though some cities including Victoria have opted to licence such businesses.

The man faces possible charges related to trafficking, dangerous operation of a motor vehicle and flight from police.

 

[Nparker]

If he'd just made it to the dispensary his illegal substance would no longer have been illegal in the eyes of the CoV police. It's almost like magic!

[On the Level]

TC ran an opinion piece on Helps' leadership on pot issues on their front page today. http://www.timescolo...ules-1.23195076

 

Although the TC credits the author with having a Phd from UVIC, they fail to mention that he is also the manager of Trees Dispensary.

We are not quite in an election campaign yet, but could the article found to be in violation?  How much would that article cost and is it being transparent?  Might be worth reporting to elections BC?

[sdwright.vic]

^I would say yes...

Reads like a free election add to me.

[spanky123]

We are not quite in an election campaign yet, but could the article found to be in violation?  How much would that article cost and is it being transparent?  Might be worth reporting to elections BC?

 

The problem with the new election laws, as I understand them, is that they now allow an unlimited, confidential amount of money from individuals to flow into 3rd party advertising. So ads like this one, which appear to be provided by an individual, are likely legal.

 

No wonder the politicians were so quick to endorse the changes. Should mean a huge windfall and competitive advantage for establishment players.

Edited by spanky123, 13 March 2018 - 05:36 AM.

[Rob Randall]

Popped into a dispensary in downtown Seattle last week to see how they compared to ours (I did not buy anything). I thought it was very professional, you show your ID at the door and the clerk discusses your needs and the various options. You can buy a pre-rolled joint for about $5 USD, presented to you in a sealed tube. 

 

The funny thing is, like Victoria or Vancouver there is not a cop in sight, Seattle police don't care a whit, they have other priorities. But if a border agent finds that joint going through customs you are in a world of trouble. 

[VicHockeyFan]

The funny thing is, like Victoria or Vancouver there is not a cop in sight, Seattle police don't care a whit, they have other priorities. 

 

Pot is legal in Washington State.  I imagine when the new law comes in in  Canada, bringing a certain amount in over the border will be legal.

[lanforod]

Pot is legal in Washington State.  I imagine when the new law comes in in  Canada, bringing a certain amount in over the border will be legal.

From the US into Canada, I'd guess so, yeah. Not the other way though.