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[DustMagnet]

There was a very robust underground for liquor sales during prohibition but it died out pretty quick post prohibition.

There is a difference though - the liquor industry was long established before Prohibition, and Prohibition lasted a relatively short period of time.  All the while the industry kept functioning outside of the Prohibition areas, and was ready to step back in when it ended.

 

Marijuana never got to be an established industry like alcohol before it was prohibited.  I suspect that given the suggested pricing differences and current black-market availability that the latter won't go away overnight, but there will be a decline in favour of the legal market.

 

I don't think it will come from busting more heads, but rather adjustments to the legal market to squeeze out the illegal  market.

[Jackerbie]

Marijuana is odd in that it became an established underground industry while prohibited. There's still a sizable marijuana by mail industry, which will probably continue to operate if the price at legal outlets isn't competitive. I don't know what sort of production capacity has been secured through Health Canada's licensed growers, but I would not be surprised at all if there was a supply issue. Quebec has about double the population of BC, and signed a supply agreement for 62,000 kg annually. 

[LJ]

I would think that with tax revenue at stake enforcement will become quite rigorous.

[DustMagnet]

I would think that with tax revenue at stake enforcement will become quite rigorous.

Not if they're playing the long game - they are getting $0 taxes now, so if they have to ramp to full expectations that's one thing.  It's not quite the same as if the market was suddenly flooding with black-market (export-only) cigarettes for example and caused a drop in tax revenue.

 

I suppose it will be a balance of how much they expect to gain in the short term and how much they want to spend on enforcement as we transition from the moral issue of Marijuana Is Bad to the more mundane accounting of Where's Muh Money?

[Rob Randall]

I checked out Centennial Square; an enterprising individual has set up a popcorn/sno-cone stand. There are about 200 people already gathered there for 4/20 handing out resumes and exchanging career-building tips. Just kidding, that part wasn't happening.

[Nparker]

I checked out Centennial Square; an enterprising individual has set up a popcorn/sno-cone stand...

Anyone giving advice on armed combat and eluding the local police?

[lanforod]

Anyone giving advice on armed combat and eluding the local police?

No advice needed. Just show up and you may participate in an hands-on workshop.

[todd]

Anyone giving advice on armed combat and eluding the local police?

 

https://culturemagaz...roof-with-hemp/

[VicHockeyFan]

BREAKING: Sunset Park Field closed for up to 10 weeks: Park Board

Following damage sustained during yesterday's 4/20 event, the Vancouver Park Board says the Sunset Park Field will be blocked off to the public for at least 10 weeks. The board says a fence will go up as it's closed for "major rehabilitation."

 

[Nparker]

So much for the theory that marijuana does no harm. Ironic that damage was done to the grass by those using grass. 

[todd]

https://twitter.com/...061352261795840

[DustMagnet]

Not if they're playing the long game - they are getting $0 taxes now, so if they have to ramp to full expectations that's one thing.  It's not quite the same as if the market was suddenly flooding with black-market (export-only) cigarettes for example and caused a drop in tax revenue.

 

I suppose it will be a balance of how much they expect to gain in the short term and how much they want to spend on enforcement as we transition from the moral issue of Marijuana Is Bad to the more mundane accounting of Where's Muh Money?

Maybe I will be right? (First time for everything.)

https://www.vicnews....ikely-minister/

[VicHockeyFan]

Farnworth said the legislation in B.C. will not include a definitive pricing policy.

 

 

Well, that's good.

[LJ]

Well, that's good.

Except you have to buy from the MDB at their price, the amount you choose to mark it up is up to you.

[DustMagnet]

More time is needed to prepare: http://www.timescolo...-say-1.23286825

Oh well, I guess no one will sell or consume any marijuana in the meantime.

 

Another year of complete control by organised crime (by definition).

[Nparker]

One has to wonder this is only coming to light now?

[DustMagnet]

One has to wonder this is only coming to light now?

Because we are getting closer to the original target date, so some excuse has to be found?

Since it's a money and control issue, perhaps the timing is designed to put pressure on the Feds to give over the money and control.

Pick a conspiracy. 

[VicHockeyFan]

Just bring the damn thing in an fine-tune is as you go.  Culturally sensitive indigenous materials I do not even know what that means.

[spanky123]

One has to wonder this is only coming to light now?

 

Many if not most FN bands intend to sell pot on reserve land tax free as they do now with "native smokes". The Feds have come back and tried to prevent that through regulation so the FN are crying fowl and want more time to resolve this.

[VicHockeyFan]

Many if not most FN bands intend to sell pot on reserve land tax free as they do now with "native smokes". The Feds have come back and tried to prevent that through regulation so the FN are crying fowl and want more time to resolve this.

 

I'd say let them sell it like they do now with cigarettes.