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[Mike K.]

The Liberal Party is outright lying, not even bending the truth or making a promise that we're unlikely to see kept. They're telling Canadians a lie, and they are lying about their solution to fix that lie.

 

Assault-style guns are not killing more Canadians. Putting greater restrictions on them will not solve the rapid rise in gun violence in this country. I'm upset by this, to be honest.

 

Furthermore, the "assault-style" rifle is literally any rifle with a calibre higher than a 22. It's literally every type of hunting rifle on the market since Canada does not permit the sale of actual assault rifles.

[Mattjvd]

That she’s a Christian, I guess. People assume that the only candidate who goes to church is Scheer. They have no idea Trudeau is a devout Catholic, they think May is an environmentalist/aethiest and only Singh has the social license to openly discuss his religious beliefs.

Canada in 2019.

May has studied Theology and was training to become a minister at one point in her life. Anyone who thinks that has never bothered to Google her.

[Mike K.]

Right.

And many haven’t look that deeply into her past, they just make a boat load of assumptions or rely 100% on headlines. It’s the same for the others.

[LJ]

The mayor of Vancouver is on board with the idea of banning handguns.

 

Do these folks have any idea what it takes to actually become a legal handgun or AR15 owner?

 

You have to take a course, apply for a license, go through a background check, and if you want to take your handgun anywhere you need a ATT permit.

 

Do they really think the clowns on the street are doing all this?

 

Do they really think the clowns will stop using weapons because there is a municipal ban?

 

Anything to virtue signal.

[lanforod]

Works really well in Chicago. Oh, wait...

[Rob Randall]

I think they're playing the long game.

 

If enough cities get on board it puts pressure on the companies to discontinue their civilian battle weapons. Perhaps they'll even go out of business. 

[Mike K.]

The only long game that will solve the rapid rise in gun violence in this country is lengthy incarceration of violent thugs, and that's something the Liberals will never admit to because it's a Conservative talking point.

 

And what in tarnations is a civilian battle weapon? A stick? A knife? A crowbar?

[Rob Randall]

^Obviously the AR-15 and its variants. Civilian versions of the Army's M-16. Don't pretend you misunderstood my meaning.

[shoeflack]

The only long game that will solve the rapid rise in gun violence in this country is lengthy incarceration of violent thugs...

 

Because as we know, this has been the solution to gun violence in the United States. Oh wait...

[Mike K.]

Can you imagine the death rates if America was weak on crime? It would be third-world bad, like South Africa bad.

Rob, an AR-15 is no deadlier than grandpa’s hunting rifle. In fact, grandpa’s hunting rifle likely has a much higher caliber and can cause far, far more damage. Canada already restricts AR-style guns to be semi auto with small cartridges. Yeah, it’s still a Chevy, but while the army uses the Corvette civilians get the Impala. Surely you can appreciate the difference here.

[Mike K.]

Because as we know, this has been the solution to gun violence in the United States. Oh wait...

One thing is for certain, if a thug is behind bars he’s not behind the barrel of a handgun.

Right?

[Rob Randall]

Rob, an AR-15 is no deadlier than grandpa’s hunting rifle. In fact, grandpa’s hunting rifle likely has a much higher caliber and can cause far, far more damage. Canada already restricts AR-style guns to be semi auto with small cartridges. Yeah, it’s still a Chevy, but while the army uses the Corvette civilians get the Impala. Surely you can appreciate the difference here.

 

We're talking speed and volume, not mere calibre. I've used grandpa's hunting rifle and I know exactly how fast and how many rounds you can get off in a given period of time.

[Mike K.]

How did it compare to your experience with an M16?

[RFS]

We know from the war on drugs that bans don’t work. Why are these politicians trying to ban guns on the one hand, and legalizing/decriminalizing drugs on the other? Why would it work from black market guns if it didn’t work for black market drugs

[Mike K.]

We're talking speed and volume, not mere calibre. I've used grandpa's hunting rifle and I know exactly how fast and how many rounds you can get off in a given period of time.

I really can’t help but laugh about speed and volume

We ain’t talking about perms here.

[Rob Randall]

That guy in Vegas wounded 500 people and killed 58. You can't do that with Pappy's .303.

 

I never shot a semi-automatic, although I did shoot a barely legal short barrel 12 gauge with Super Slugs and that about knocked me down. I laugh watching movies with people running around scoring head shots from 20 yards one-handed. 

 

Anyway, many of these things and their aftermarket add-ons like bump stocks have no place in our bedroom closets and I support any government initiative that helps make them a relic of the past as futile as it may seem.

Edited by Rob Randall, 24 September 2019 - 10:03 AM.

[Mike K.]

Bump stocks! Now we’re really on a roll with I-read-something-pertaining-to-American-firearms-regulations-and-it-must-apply-to-Canada’s.

Bump stocks are illegal in Canada. They’re already legislated out of our society. They’re prohibited, in other words, and have been for some time and I can assure no law abiding citizen has one hiding in their closet.

[Victoria Watcher]

We're talking speed and volume, not mere calibre. I've used grandpa's hunting rifle and I know exactly how fast and how many rounds you can get off in a given period of time.

just add up the dead rabbits at the end of an hour and divide by 60.

[rjag]

^Obviously the AR-15 and its variants. Civilian versions of the Army's M-16. Don't pretend you misunderstood my meaning.

 

Rob the AR-15 thats sold in Canada isnt an assault rifle. Its a semi auto no different than most mainstream hunting rifles with a 5 round clip.

 

 

An assault rifle is a rifle that uses an intermediate cartridge, a detachable magazine, and can switch between semi-automatic/fully automatic fire. Assault rifles are currently the standard service rifles in most modern armies.

By strict definition, a firearm must have the following characteristics to be considered an assault rifle:^{[1][page needed][2][page needed][3][page needed]}

• It must be an individual weapon;
• It must be capable of selective fire, which means it has the capacity to switch between semi-automatic and burst/fully automatic fire;^[4]
• It must have an intermediate-power cartridge: more power than a pistol but less than a standard rifle or battle rifle. For full-power automatic rifles, see List of battle rifles;
• Its ammunition must be supplied from a detachable box magazine;
• It should have an effective range of at least 300 metres (330 yards).

 

 

 

Heres a list of actual 'assault rifles' Please let me know which ones you can buy in Canada and own privately?

 

https://en.wikipedia..._assault_rifles

 

The same applies to handguns. There are a great many restrictions and checks required before a civilian can purchase and possess a handgun. 

 

The liberals and left wing mayors are skirting around the topic because it would have to play into the Conservative agenda of lengthy prison sentences for possession or use of a firearm in the commission of a crime etc.

 

You are far more likely to encounter Justin Trudeau in blackface than be the victim of a crime where a legally owned weapon was used 

[Greg]

You are far more likely to encounter Justin Trudeau in blackface than be the victim of a crime where a legally owned weapon was used 

 

I'm pretty sure I don't fully agree with your general position, but funny is funny.