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#4901 rjag

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Posted 20 October 2019 - 07:13 AM

I think Jag is Justin 2.0...focus on his persona and star presence and not on his platform and how its costed.

 

His comments about taxing the ultra wealthy to pay their fair share is based not on net worth but on gross worth which can mean being taxed on a business valued at $40 million but not on the net value after all debt and obligations etc.

 

Also how do they arrive at a private business value? Property values based on what? Provincial property assessments? That may be how they arrive at the property but how do you value a persons share of a business?

 

Multiples of Ebit? Ebitda? 

 

So If the threshold is $20 million? is it based on the whole business or a person? 



#4902 Mike K.

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Posted 20 October 2019 - 07:16 AM

That’s probably just it. It looks great on paper, but the sums recovered would be dismal once you broke down the components of that $40 million and separate debt from actual fully owned assets and net revenues, etc.

Trudeau says he wants to implement a federal foreign buyers tax.
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#4903 rjag

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Posted 20 October 2019 - 07:21 AM

That’s probably just it. It looks great on paper, but the sums recovered would be dismal once you broke down the components of that $40 million and separate debt from actual fully owned assets and net revenues, etc.

Trudeau says he wants to implement a federal foreign buyers tax.

 

From what I hear via Mike Campbell etc is Jag wants to tax based on gross valuations....want to see how quickly investment moves out of Canada?



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Posted 20 October 2019 - 07:22 AM

So is anyone brave enough to forecast the results for tomorrow?



#4905 Mike K.

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Posted 20 October 2019 - 07:25 AM

Right, and I suspect they would quickly realize it would never fly when job loss figures were tallied up.

“A leading business in Vancouver says it will be forced to lay off 120 workers if it is forced to pay a new tax introduced by the NDP.”

Multiply that by a thousand and you’ve got a 180 policy pivot right quick.

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Posted 20 October 2019 - 07:30 AM

So is anyone brave enough to forecast the results for tomorrow?

 

i will

 

conservatives 171

liberal 118

npd 21

green 2

bloc 26

ppc 0 

other 0



#4907 Mike K.

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Posted 20 October 2019 - 07:31 AM

So is anyone brave enough to forecast the results for tomorrow?

I feel the Conservatives did a poor job of representing their candidates on the Island. There are several close races here but Scheer and the brand were awol, even on the signage front. That, I think, will come back to haunt them when 1-2 ridings on VI end up with Cons in second.

My biggest prediction is Windsor taking it for the Liberals in Saanich-Gulf. Second biggest is Garrison will be replaced just barely in ESS. By whom? Likely Merner, but Pewarchuk could land it as well. The Liberal candidate doesn’t stand a chance, I don’t think.

Victoria? It won’t be NDP.

Langford? NDP.
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Posted 20 October 2019 - 07:40 AM

If May loses I think it will be the demise of the Federal Green party for years....especially this election, they really went full on looney toons with some of their platform



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Posted 20 October 2019 - 07:41 AM

My biggest prediction is Windsor taking it for the Liberals in Saanich-Gulf.


I don't think this is possible at all. Polls can be wrong, but not that wrong.

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#4910 Mike K.

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Posted 20 October 2019 - 07:43 AM

I’m going for the big money here. I realize it’s a near impossibility but the stakes are high!

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#4911 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 20 October 2019 - 07:43 AM

where do you find those riding polls rfs?



#4912 RFS

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Posted 20 October 2019 - 07:44 AM

where do you find those riding polls rfs?


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Posted 20 October 2019 - 07:47 AM

If May loses I think it will be the demise of the Federal Green party for years....especially this election, they really went full on looney toons with some of their platform


Not one but two revisions to their platform when their numbers were found to have been miscalculated. That’s got to be embarrassing.

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#4914 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 20 October 2019 - 07:47 AM

Canada338

 

ah yes.  ok here's the other ones:

 

 



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Posted 20 October 2019 - 07:51 AM



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Posted 20 October 2019 - 08:07 AM

ESS has changed a lot in a week. I doubt they poll enough in each riding to get any sort of accuracy.
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Posted 20 October 2019 - 08:09 AM

ESS has changed a lot in a week. I doubt they poll enough in each riding to get any sort of accuracy.

 

well for sure you can see the margins of errors listed are high.



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Posted 20 October 2019 - 08:12 AM

I posted a ESS screenshot just a few days ago. The change is huge, green way down, blue up.

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Posted 20 October 2019 - 08:15 AM

does anyone think all this coalition talk is scaring away moderate liberal voters > > conservative?  that's a possibility.


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Posted 20 October 2019 - 08:22 AM

So is anyone brave enough to forecast the results for tomorrow?

no

 

liberal minority propped up by the ndp



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