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[Bernard]

Jean Charet is still around? Jesus, what about Joe Clark?

It has only been 39 years and 323 days since Joe Clark was PM, time for another comeback attempt?  He is still only 80 years old, Bernie Sanders is 78 

[Rob Randall]

Or Joke Lark as my dad used to say.

[Bernard]

In 41 days Joe Clark will have lived more of his life since being PM than before he was PM.   A rather amazing feat for anyone to accomplish.  Assuming Trudeau stays in office till 2023, he would have to be live to age 96 or so to achieve the same feat.  John Turner would have to live another 20 years to do the same.

 

The stat shows how much younger Clark was than anyone else who became PM (the only person to become PM in their 30s) and how short his term in office was.   If he had been able to work with the Creditistes in Quebec he would have been PM for 4 years and not 8 months as he did.  He is the only PM to lose a vote of confidence because he failed to count the numbers and make sure the conservative MPs from Quebec did not vote against him.

[Tom Braybrook]

Jean Charet is still around? Jesus, what about Joe Clark?

...whoaa there! leave my cousin Joe out of it...

[John M.]

Joe Clark was always underrated, I wish he would have had more of a crack at being PM, or at least as PC leader (but he was a great External Affairs Minister under Mulroney, though). He would make a much better leader of the CPC than corrupt liberal Jean Charest, but unfortunately I suspect just about anyone attached to the PC brand exclusively (unlike some people like Peter McKay, who served in the CPC government) is automatically out of the running for most people. 

[Bernard]

Joe Clark was always underrated, I wish he would have had more of a crack at being PM, or at least as PC leader (but he was a great External Affairs Minister under Mulroney, though). He would make a much better leader of the CPC than corrupt liberal Jean Charest, but unfortunately I suspect just about anyone attached to the PC brand exclusively (unlike some people like Peter McKay, who served in the CPC government) is automatically out of the running for most people. 

Clark showed in his mishandling of the confidence vote that he is not a good strategic thinker when it comes to governing.   He is also the Minister of External Affairs that accidentally sent an audio tape to a media outlet that had not been erased and had rough dictation notes that should not have been released.

 

Joe Clark is a nice guy and truly listens and considers other people, he is just not a strong leader and was never very charismatic.  He would have been better as an academic that wrote thought pieces for the public to re-think how government works.

[grantpalin]

Rona Ambrose says she won't run for the Conservative leadership (CBC)

 

Straight to the source, her Facebook post

[RFS]

Pierre Poilievre is out.

 

So with Ambrose and Poilievre out I guess this is basically MacKay vs Erin O'toole?

[Mike K.]

I’d be ok with MacKay.

Hey, that’s got a ring to it. Ok ...with MacKay! 🤗

[Bernard]

or "O'Toole, he is no tool, right?"

 

Better than Joe Clark's slogan "Joe Who?"   and yes, he did not create but he lived up to it and never managed to get the media to let him live it down while he was leader and then PM

[RFS]

"I'm cool with O'Toole"

[Tom Braybrook]

or "O'Toole, he is no tool, right?"

 

Better than Joe Clark's slogan "Joe Who?"   and yes, he did not create but he lived up to it and never managed to get the media to let him live it down while he was leader and then PM

...hey now, leave my cousin Joe out of this...

[LJ]

I'm kinda liking Leslyn Lewis for conservative leader...

 

http://www.leslynlewis.ca/

 

 

No name recognition tho, might be a tough go.

[Victoria Watcher]

or "O'Toole, he is no tool, right?"

Better than Joe Clark's slogan "Joe Who?" and yes, he did not create but he lived up to it and never managed to get the media to let him live it down while he was leader and then PM

Toole and tool is not a rhyme.

[Bernard]

I'm kinda liking Leslyn Lewis for conservative leader...

 

http://www.leslynlewis.ca/

 

 

No name recognition tho, might be a tough go.

She is never going to get the $300,000 needed to enter the race (yes, $100,000 is refundable).  The 3,000 signatures in 30 ridings is also going to be a stretch.   For reference, in 2017 the fee was $50,000 with an additional $50,000 refundable compliance deposit.   Only 300 signatures were required

 

Here is who has declared so far:

Oct 23 Aron Seal - young ex CPC policy advisor

Dec 22 Clayton Knutzon - ran for the Freedom Conservative party in Alberta

Jan 9 Marilyn Gladu - MP since 2015, former minister of science

Jan 15 Bobby Singh - ran as a CPC candidate in 2019

Jan 15 Peter MacKay - the clear frontrunner

Jan 22 Derek Sloan - been an MP since 2019

Jan 22 Leslyn Lewis - was a 2015 CPC candidate

Jan 22 Rick Peterson - could not win the BC Conservative leadership and in the 2017 CPC leadership race he got 0.65% of the vote

Jan 25 Erin O'Toole - one of two serious candidates

Jan 28 Jim Karahalios - ran for president of the Ontario PC in 2018 but lost

Pending Richard Decarie - was deputy chief of staff for Stephen and also Chief of Staff for Premier Jean Charest

 

4 more people are considering running.

 

I suspect that when the dust settles on March 25th only 4 or 5 people will be in the race

[RFS]

If a black woman was in the running for the NDP or Liberal leadership, the CBC et al would be falling over themselves to tell us all about it.  Weird how there has been literally zero coverage of Leslyn..

[Victoria Watcher]

so if i'm to understand what happened on parliament hill today.

 

our local ndp mp was telling the house how sex work is real work and real women choose this type of work and deserve some government protections or at least less interference from being able to perform such work.

 

then a conservative mp asked our mp if she had ever performed such work.

 

then he had to apologize for even suggesting she'd do such degrading work.  or something.

 

because you see she'd be above that type of work but hundreds or thousands of canadian women are not.  

 

you could follow here:  https://twitter.com/...789242850807808

 

but it still would not make much sense.

Edited by Victoria Watcher, 04 February 2020 - 02:41 PM.

[Victoria Watcher]

 

it seems to me that she is denigrating sex work but taking offence to the suggestion that she would ever perform it.

 

he tried to explain to the speaker where he was going.  that no canadian women ever choose the profession (which i think is wrong but it's a small portion).

 

 

[RFS]

Christ, reading that twitter thread gave me cancer.  Our political/academic class are petulant children 

[Mike K.]

In Collins’ own riding the police put out APBs routinely asking for the public to help find high-risk underage girls. One of these girls, if not two, may have been the victims in the human trafficking case we learned of last week.