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#3881 m3m

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Posted 15 August 2019 - 03:33 PM

Harper created the ethics office knowing that the Liberals would fall into its traps. What he didn’t know was how often it would happen.

 

If Harper created this for the liberals to fall into, then why did he create it without the power to penalize or sanction? 



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Posted 16 August 2019 - 05:54 AM

^^ The NDP leader was set up by Collins and the TC reporter took the bait.

Fake news.
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#3883 Mike K.

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Posted 16 August 2019 - 07:10 AM

If Harper created this for the liberals to fall into, then why did he create it without the power to penalize or sanction?


It’s more effective to leave the repercussions to the electorate.

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#3884 vortoozo

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Posted 16 August 2019 - 08:37 AM

Current poll numbers for Victoria show the Greens slightly ahead of the Liberals & NDP: https://ipolitics.ca...ainstreet-poll/

Greens/Liberals/NDP all within the poll's margin of error.

Lots of undecided voters still.



#3885 Mike K.

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Posted 16 August 2019 - 09:43 AM

Keep in mind that the Liberals don't even have a candidate, and they're polling ahead of Laurel Collins (NDP). You could name a rock, literally, the candidate, and at this juncture that rock (or a ping pong table) would be elected to office.


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Posted 17 August 2019 - 03:35 AM

 
All Apologies: Ten mea culpas issued in the Trudeau era and one rejected apology request Trudeau says he shouldn't have to apologize for sticking up for the jobs that may be at risk if the Quebec company faces prosecution

 

https://nationalpost...apology-request

 

 
Trudeau tiptoes the Clinton-esque fine line between responsibility and atonement Trudeau was already a Canadian case study in the psychology of apology, and the related but distinct moral notion of responsibility

 

https://nationalpost...y-and-atonement

 

 
Rex Murphy: I accept and I disagree: Justin Trudeau's amazing doublespeak I’m willing to give the PM a break. It’s possible he’s got no apologies left. He’s simply run out. But I’m sure some new ones are on order

 

https://nationalpost...ing-doublespeak

 

 
Conrad Black: It's now extraordinarily hard to argue Trudeau deserves re-election Unless he runs the most persuasive election campaign in Canada’s history, Trudeau and his partisans should be thoroughly punished by the voters for a combination of incompetence and deficient ethics

 

 
 
 
Andrew Coyne: The deception in the SNC affair is the most troubling aspect of all This is not some junior clerk they were attempting to hoodwink. This was the chief law officer of Canada

 

 

https://nationalpost...o_autoplay=true

 

 
NP View: Unacceptable behaviour from a stubborn and wilful man Justin Trudeau has shown he lacks the judgment, character, honesty and discipline to be trusted with the job of prime minister

 

https://nationalpost...-and-wilful-man

 
     
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Posted 17 August 2019 - 03:37 AM

It was not out of the ordinary at Postmedia, Canada’s largest newspaper chain, for editors to have their knuckles rapped for failing to meet the political expectations of the company’s conservative management.

In 2015, after the federal election that brought Justin Trudeau’s Liberals to power, Andrew Potter, then editor-in-chief of the Ottawa Citizen, was called to the company’s head offices in Toronto.

There, Lou Clancy — then Postmedia’s senior vice president of content — told Potter that his paper was too “anti-conservative,” according to three sources. When Potter asked for specific examples of coverage that could be improved upon, Clancy could only cite a single editorial cartoon.

Nor was it out of the ordinary for management to use its papers to make election endorsements without the input of editors.

During the 2015 federal election, for example, the Citizen was ordered by Postmedia bosses to endorse the Conservative Party of Canada. This despite its reporting in the years before having led to three Conservatives being put on trial; two of them ultimately went to jail. Still, the paper argued, the party remained the best choice for Canadians. (A month after the election, the members of the Citizen’s editorial board resigned).

In the 2015 Alberta election, the Edmonton Journal — another of the chain’s metropolitan daily broadsheets — was ordered to endorse Alberta’s Progressive Conservatives, after the paper had unearthed a run of embarrassing stories for the ruling party, and in a campaign where it was universally held that the PCs had underperformed.

At Postmedia, this was all par for the course.

But October 2018 was different. October 2018 was the start of something unprecedented.

Several editors at the National Post — Postmedia’s flagship newspaper with an explicitly conservative political mandate, where I reported on media from 2016 to 2017 — were summoned to a meeting on the 12th floor of the company’s headquarters.

There, according to three sources familiar with the meeting, company president Andrew MacLeod told them that their paper — which launched in 1998 to serve as the voice of thoughtful, modern Canadian conservatism, and which many would argue remains so — was insufficiently conservative.

 

https://www.canadala...n-of-postmedia/


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#3888 Benezet

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Posted 17 August 2019 - 09:03 AM

Here’s a lawyer’s analysis of the Ethics Commissioner’s report.

https://mobile.twitt...395190264586245

Quick summary: it sucks.

#3889 Mike K.

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Posted 17 August 2019 - 10:14 AM

That’s very interesting. Now we wait for the counter (legal) arguments.

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#3890 rjag

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Posted 17 August 2019 - 01:11 PM

Here’s a lawyer’s analysis of the Ethics Commissioner’s report.

https://mobile.twitt...395190264586245

Quick summary: it sucks.

 

Link doesnt open for me but if its the article by Mendes be very careful as he isnt exactly a neutral spokesman on this. He's a long time Liberal donor and advisor to the Party going back more than a decade or longer. Other Constitutional experts with a more neutral position say the Ethic Commissioners report is what it is and if you think its wrong then it must be heard in an open court where all the findings are tested against the report. There is zero chance in a thousand years that the Liberals will challenge this in an open court as they would have to go through Discovery and allow JWR, Philpott etc to speak under oath....and that will never happen 



#3891 Benezet

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Posted 17 August 2019 - 03:25 PM

Link doesnt open for me but if its the article by Mendes be very careful....


It’s by David Hamer, as a long series of tweets. (@DavidHamer_1951 on Twitter)
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#3892 rjag

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Posted 17 August 2019 - 04:30 PM

It’s by David Hamer, as a long series of tweets. (@DavidHamer_1951 on Twitter)

 

Thanks,  :thumbsup:  no idea why it wont open, but I was hearing lots of noise that Mendes was making some interesting comments. 



#3893 Benezet

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Posted 17 August 2019 - 04:41 PM

Here’s Mendes himself, for anyone who wants to read him directly:

https://ipolitics.ca...d-jurisdiction/
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#3894 rjag

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Posted 18 August 2019 - 08:21 AM

https://twitter.com/...478159838810115

 

https://twitter.com/...887929364008960

 

some fascinating threads on the Twitter that cut through the noise



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Posted 20 August 2019 - 03:46 PM

while nobody thought ezra levant would be invited to moderate this line-up is a joke.

 

Guiding a separate section of the English debate will be: Lisa LaFlamme from CTV News, Rosemary Barton from CBC News, Dawna Friesen from Global News, Susan Delacourt from the Toronto Star, and Althia Raj from HuffPost Canada.

 

 

https://www.ctvnews....tober-1.4557866



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Posted 20 August 2019 - 07:32 PM

https://www.globalre...-canada/5422924

 

 
Canada’s Corrupt Corporations: World Bank’s Corrupt Companies Blacklist, Dominated By Canada

 

600 companies now listed as barred from doing business with the World Bank over corruption, 117 are Canadian, the most of any one country. And of those, 115 represent SNC-Lavalin 

 

 

https://www.worldban.../debarred-firms

 

Type Canada or SNC in the search box...thats the company that Skippy is trying to protect 

 

The firms and individuals listed in Table 1 below are ineligible to be awarded a World Bank-financed contract for the periods indicated because they have been sanctioned under the Bank's fraud and corruption policy as set forth in the Procurement Guidelines and the Consultant Guidelines (for projects before July 1, 2016); or through the World Bank Procurement Regulations for Investment Project Financing Borrowers (for projects after July 1, 2016).

 



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Posted 20 August 2019 - 11:15 PM

while nobody thought ezra levant would be invited to moderate this line-up is a joke.

 

 

https://www.ctvnews....tober-1.4557866

.." Lisa LaFlamme from CTV News, Rosemary Barton from CBC News, Dawna Friesen from Global News, Susan Delacourt from the Toronto Star, and Althia Raj from HuffPost Canada."..

 

you go girls!



#3898 rjag

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Posted 21 August 2019 - 06:41 AM

.." Lisa LaFlamme from CTV News, Rosemary Barton from CBC News, Dawna Friesen from Global News, Susan Delacourt from the Toronto Star, and Althia Raj from HuffPost Canada."..

 

you go girls!

 

 

Thats diversity for you!

 

Funny not hearing much from our progressive friends in the same fashion if it was an all white male lineup....guess double standards are acceptable these days 


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#3899 Mike K.

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Posted 21 August 2019 - 06:45 AM

PPC not invited, but HuffPost has a panelist.

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Posted 21 August 2019 - 07:34 AM

PPC not invited, but HuffPost has a panelist.

 

All of the Canadian Debate Production Partnership members have a panelist at either the English or French debates



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