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[rjag]

It would take me 10 years to break even on fuel prices with the Leaf. 

 

 

Yup you have to be a high mileage driver to extract true value out of them. Awesome for cabs etc but for grandpa putting 5k per year, he's better off in a corolla. The only perceived value is virtue signalling.

 

Marko I'm sure does a lot of distance so his savings will be real

[VicHockeyFan]

Hey, I commented here before I know a guy that works nights in downtown, he has an electric car.  Free parkade parking, free charger each night.  Then he drives home to Metchosin.  He pays for no fuel tax, or fuel, or downtown parking!

[lanforod]

Let’s get more modern than that. They should pay by the km.

 

Folks who drive a lot would argue that they get more experience and actually have less accidents per km driven than low km drivers (I suspect they are right anyways).

 

(I'm a low km driver, putting in maybe 12k annually).

 

A full overhaul is going to be needed to deal with driverless cars anyways, so hopefully ICBC deals with both EV and driverless, as well as all the other myriad issues they ahve soon.

[nagel]

Hey, I commented here before I know a guy that works nights in downtown, he has an electric car.  Free parkade parking, free charger each night.  Then he drives home to Metchosin.  He pays for no fuel tax, or fuel, or downtown parking!

He does get two-tiered by Hydro though as a nice penalty for following government's environmental goals.

 

Happens to me too.  I'd probably be better off if I stopped using my brand-new electric heat pump and just used NG for heat.  6 people in the house, Hydro DGAF.

[VicHockeyFan]

A full overhaul is going to be needed to deal with driverless cars anyways, so hopefully ICBC deals with both EV and driverless, as well as all the other myriad issues they ahve soon.

 

As fast as they have dealt with uber?

[lanforod]

Is Uber ICBC's problem or the province?  That's a big failure for sure... the taxi lobby has too much power here.

[tjv]

Let’s get more modern than that. They should pay by the km.

In a way we do with the categories of use - please, driving to work/school less than 15km, more than 15km, business use, etc, etc.  They are grouped based on mileage

 

He does get two-tiered by Hydro though as a nice penalty for following government's environmental goals.

 

Happens to me too.  I'd probably be better off if I stopped using my brand-new electric heat pump and just used NG for heat.  6 people in the house, Hydro DGAF.

I have the same thing, 2 brand new electric heat pumps.  I had to go electric as Fortis was going to charge me 20k to run gas to my house.  I had 2 options - oil or electric heat pump so guess what I chose.  My electric bill in winter is around $450 per month.  Thanks BC Hydro!

[sdwright.vic]

Do you do level billing?

[tjv]

^do you mean spreading out the averages over the year?  no

[LeoVictoria]

It would take me 10 years to break even on fuel prices with the Leaf. 

 

Not in the used market.   The break even is about a year or two depending on what exact cars you are comparing.   With financing break even could be immediate.   

Edited by LeoVictoria, 28 February 2018 - 03:20 PM.

[jonny]

Unfortunately, there's no break even point for how dorky those things look. 

[Mike K.]

What do you mean?

 

[lanforod]

^ that's even worse than dorky.

[Mike K.]

Are you guys on drugs or something?

[LeoVictoria]

Unfortunately, there's no break even point for how dorky those things look. 

 

Agreed that right now the only ones available for a reasonable price are the dorky looking ones.   However this is a solved issue.  None of the current gen EVs are dorky looking anymore.  

Ioniq, SoulEV, GolfEV, FocusEV, new Leaf, Model 3, Bolt, all look completely ordinary or better.

Edited by LeoVictoria, 28 February 2018 - 04:20 PM.

[tjv]

Are you guys on drugs or something?

that car does look super dorky, it looks like a reject from an 80s movie

[VicHockeyFan]

A very few stations went to 149.x yesterday, none followed, so they have dropped back to 145.x today.

[Mike K.]

Weird hey? I’m fairly sure it was the Shells. Went up to 149.1.

[VicHockeyFan]

One in Sidney. A couple in Langford. And Chevron Hillside/Quadra.

[lanforod]

The 2 c/l gas tax increase here and the increase carbon tax should have kicked in yesterday too.