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#461 spanky123

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Posted 02 October 2017 - 08:04 AM

The table games are fine. But almost all the space in a big casino is taken up by those horrible video slot machines. I know a former lower-mainland casino manager and he has lots of tales of people soiling their pants or going to the bathroom in a hallway because they were too afraid of abandoning their "lucky" machine.

 

They are filled with slot machines because that is where a casino makes the most money. All slots in BC are connected to a central computer system. The odds are controlled such that every machines pays the same (unlike in Vegas where the casino controls the odds). The average strip casino in Vegas keeps 4-8% on slots. Off-strip casinos 1-5%. BC casinos keep 9-11%. 


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Posted 02 October 2017 - 08:13 AM

I know a security guard at View Royal. I have heard the same stories of propping soiling themselves or wearing diapers so they don't loose their lucky machine.

In reality all they have to do is hit the help button and request a reserved sign while they go to the potty like a grown up.

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#463 Bingo

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Posted 02 October 2017 - 08:43 AM

I know a security guard at View Royal. I have heard the same stories of propping soiling themselves or wearing diapers so they don't loose their lucky machine.

In reality all they have to do is hit the help button and request a reserved sign while they go to the potty like a grown up.

 

I would think that a high end casino would have a catheter service that brings you another beer and empties your bag at the same time.


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Posted 02 October 2017 - 09:56 AM

I would think that a high end casino would have a catheter service that brings you another beer and empties your bag at the same time.

 

Well, I was talking about Langley but maybe that's available at Edgewater.


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#465 VicHockeyFan

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Posted 04 October 2017 - 08:32 AM

Paddock was forthcoming in “great detail” on matters from his “float”, or cash gambling base, to his annual income, which was “very much well over a senior executive’s wage in the US”.

 

“And how he obtained that: the algorithms behind his methodology of gambling – only on machines, not on tables,” he said.

 

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#466 VicHockeyFan

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Posted 04 October 2017 - 08:47 AM

Paddock moved to Nevada about two years ago, after having made a significant amount of money as an accountant and through various real-estate holdings, his brother Eric Paddock has said.

"He was a guy who had money," Eric Paddock told The Associated Press. "He went on cruises and gambled."

Others who knew Stephen Paddock have also touched on his gambling habits — one neighbor told CNN that Paddock once said, "We're up all night because we gamble."

Paddock had an affinity for high-stakes video poker, according to his brother, who also described a recent text from Paddock as showing "a picture that he won $40,000 on a slot machine," the AP reported.

In the weeks before the shooting, Paddock gambled with at least $160,000, NBC News reported, citing senior law-enforcement officials. He reportedly made multiple transactions of at least $10,000 on some days, though it is unclear whether he won or lost money.

Aside from the Mandalay Bay, Paddock had connections to at least two other casinos on the Las Vegas Strip.

Paddock was a frequent player "with the highest status" at Caesars Entertainment properties, a source familiar with the investigation told NBC News. This may mean he had Seven Stars tier status, which is invitation-only and includes comped rooms and player credits.

 

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#467 VicHockeyFan

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Posted 04 October 2017 - 09:01 AM

Long read but interesting story about two guys that discovered a bug in a very popular video poker game and made millions.

 

https://www.wired.co...ng-video-poker/


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Posted 04 April 2018 - 09:21 AM

B.C. attorney general reviewing report aimed at ending money laundering

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“…police investigations and government documents that allege a transnational money-laundering operation used VIP gamblers from China to buy chips in B.C. casinos with loans of criminal cash. It also revealed examples of high-stakes gamblers showing up to B.C. casinos to buy chips with thousands of dollars in cash stuffed into hockey and shopping bags.

Cracking down on the scheme will mean the province would forgo up to $88 million in annual revenue from large cash transactions from VIP gamblers at high-limit betting tables, a price that [BC Attorney General David] Eby has said the government is willing to pay to clean up the sector.”

 

and

 

http://www.cbc.ca/ne...ering-1.4603880

“British Columbia's attorney general says a report on money laundering makes clear that proceeds of crime have been laundered through the province's casinos for many years.

David Eby says in a news release he's reviewing the report by former RCMP deputy commissioner Peter German and believes it will provide a strong foundation to make effective decisions aimed at ending the illegal activity.”

 

“He also wants the purchase of luxury cars tracked in areas, including the Lower Mainland, saying the practice can be used to reintroduce illegal cash into the economy.”



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Posted 05 July 2018 - 11:46 AM

Jeremy Loveday is on CFAX right now with Joe Perkins talking about a casino in Victoria.

His arguments against are shocking, especially in light of what 844 Johnson and the like have done to the community.

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Posted 05 July 2018 - 11:51 AM

Jeremy Loveday is on CFAX right now with Joe Perkins talking about a casino in Victoria.

His arguments against are shocking, especially in light of what 844 Johnson and the like have done to the community.


What did he say?
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#471 Nparker

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Posted 05 July 2018 - 01:04 PM

Don't hate on casinos Jeremy!


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Posted 05 July 2018 - 01:26 PM

I am surprised not to see a casino on the indian reserves on the peninsula or the Songhees


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Posted 05 July 2018 - 01:49 PM

I am surprised not to see a casino on the indian reserves on the peninsula or the Songhees

There's only one First Nations owned casino in B.C.

 

The laws in B.C. don't permit revenue sharing with the native groups, thus there's no real incentive for First Nations to partner up with the B.C. Gov't just for wages ... while the B.C. Gov't takes all the profits.


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#474 Mike K.

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Posted 05 July 2018 - 02:34 PM

Would that be Chances in Cowichan?

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Posted 05 July 2018 - 02:37 PM

Would that be Chances in Cowichan?

 

I know that Chances Salmon Arm is



#476 Mike K.

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Posted 05 July 2018 - 02:39 PM

Yeah, I’m pretty sure Chances Cowichan is on native land.

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Posted 05 July 2018 - 04:19 PM

What did he say?

 

He was critical of the fact that casinos are typically designed to encourage people to stay in them.

He was concerned that any money generated for the community would not be enough to cover the additional policing needs arising from the casino (Hello, 844 Johnson?)

he was concerned that a casino development might seem too much like a strip mall like the one in View Royal with parking in front.

 

I think there were a few others.  Perhaps he can chime in here and clarify :)


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#478 Nparker

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Posted 05 July 2018 - 04:30 PM

He was critical of the fact that casinos are typically designed to encourage people to stay in them....

You mean like theatres (both movie and stage), restaurants, and shopping malls?



#479 Mike K.

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Posted 05 July 2018 - 04:32 PM

The notion that casinos increase criminality is not unlike the notion that pot shops are medicinal dispensaries.
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Posted 05 July 2018 - 04:37 PM

It's actually the St. Eugene Resort Casino in Cranbrook. 

The difference to distinguish is between a private, corporate owned BCLC casino (Chances) located on First Nations land - paying a long term lease to the band ... and an actual casino thats's owned by the First Nations.

Cowichan and Salmon Arm bands don't own the casino ... they lease the land to the folks who own the casino ... (and they may have some contractual arrangement with the band to hire a certain percentage of the bands members, and to do a specific amount of business with band owned companies).

 

http://www.lazchar.c...ing-law_canada/

https://www.theglobe...article9419300/

 

That could all change down the road, but for now it's only the St. Eugene facility that is a First Nations owned facility, to the full benefit of the Nation ... and even with that the B.C. Gov't takes a crapload of money from them as per the existing legislation that allows them to do so.



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