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#1 2F2R

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Posted 08 October 2015 - 07:45 AM

I would like to see Shelbourne Street redesigned like Veterans Memorial Parkway from Bay Street to an interchange at Sayward. Cut down all the old trees that look terrible cut around the power lines and plant new ones ... perhaps Japaneese Plumb on the outside and new "memorial maple trees" down the middle. Reasonably sized sidewalks and bike lanes on either side. Lets plan for the future ... it is perhaps the second most important vehicle corridor.



#2 lanforod

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Posted 08 October 2015 - 07:48 AM

I would like to see Shelbourne Street redesigned like Veterans Memorial Parkway from Bay Street to an interchange at Sayward. Cut down all the old trees that look terrible cut around the power lines and plant new ones ... perhaps Japaneese Plumb on the outside and new "memorial maple trees" down the middle. Reasonably sized sidewalks and bike lanes on either side. Lets plan for the future ... it is perhaps the second most important vehicle corridor.

You have 100 million or whatever it would take to purchase the private property to get the right of way for that?



#3 nagel

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Posted 08 October 2015 - 08:02 AM

You have 100 million or whatever it would take to purchase the private property to get the right of way for that?

And what council was saying was that they can't just wait for redevelopment to fix it because the property values are so low on the street itself because of the street itself, so it's the cart before the horse problem.  They have to fix the street before development can occur.

 

There's no way Saanich is going to spend the money to buy 3-4 metres of land from every landowner on each side of Shelbourne for 3km.



#4 Kach

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Posted 08 October 2015 - 08:32 AM

Looks like we could use a dedicated thread for Shelbourne Street development, but likely better in the infrastructure thread, or at least not in the City of Victoria Construction and Land Use thread.  Just some housekeeping.... :thumbsup:


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#5 Mike K.

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Posted 08 October 2015 - 09:19 AM

Ok, thread has been moved to the infrastructure sub.

 

Don't we already have a thread dealing with Shelbourne, or is that just my imagination?


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#6 Bingo

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Posted 08 October 2015 - 12:09 PM

Ok, thread has been moved to the infrastructure sub.

 

Don't we already have a thread dealing with Shelbourne, or is that just my imagination?

 

What about all the other related comments going back to post 1502



#7 amor de cosmos

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Posted 08 October 2015 - 01:38 PM

no easy answer
 

Rather than choose one of two major options for the four-kilometre Shelbourne corridor between North Dairy and Feltham roads, Saanich council unanimously voted this week to seek public feedback on both options.

Option 1, which could be implemented in the next seven years, includes some new sidewalks, a bicycle lane physically separated from motor vehicles for 25 per cent of Shelbourne Street, from Knight Avenue to Pear Street as well as from Torquay Drive to Feltham Road.

More than 300 trees, the vast majority of them healthy, would come down for the changes. Upgrades would be made to bike connector routes at the University of Victoria, Blair, Bowker Creek and Kingsley.

The four lanes of traffic would remain undivided general-purpose lanes, but some turn lanes and bus bays would be lost to sidewalk improvements.

Option 2 — with a timeline until 2038 — includes a bike lane for the entire four kilometres but reduces motor-vehicle lanes to two, three or four lanes in different segments in order to give cyclists a dedicated 15 per cent of the road. That would reduce vehicle and bus traffic share to 50 per cent.

At large key intersections, some utility poles would have to be moved.

Saanich would have to acquire easements and use parts of them to widen the road as properties change hands.

A study by Urban Systems for Saanich council noted that existing traffic volumes reach 1,000 to 1,200 vehicles per hour in peak periods.

If a travel lane is reduced between Feltham and North Dairy, as much as 15 per cent more peak period traffic will go to Cedar Hill Road, seven per cent more on Richmond Road and up to 20 per cent more to Gordon Head Road.

In the long-term vision, Shelbourne’s current right of way — from property line to property line — would increase from 20 to 23 metres to 28 to 30 metres, affecting “almost every property fronting Shelbourne Street,” the Urban Spaces report said.

It would provide four travel lanes, including two for rapid transit and two for private vehicles, the curb and gutter, a utility strip for hydro and street lights, and the cycle track bounded on the other side by boulevard with trees and sidewalk.

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#8 LJ

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Posted 08 October 2015 - 07:48 PM

And what council was saying was that they can't just wait for redevelopment to fix it because the property values are so low on the street itself because of the street itself, so it's the cart before the horse problem.  They have to fix the street before development can occur.

 

There's no way Saanich is going to spend the money to buy 3-4 metres of land from every landowner on each side of Shelbourne for 3km.

Doesn't the municipality retain the rights to the first 15' of your property for lights, sidewalks etc.?


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#9 Coreyburger

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Posted 08 October 2015 - 07:59 PM

Doesn't the municipality retain the rights to the first 15' of your property for lights, sidewalks etc.?

 

No, they property lines are clearly defined. They can get an easement later for utilities, etc, but that isn't for roads.



 



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