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Crystal Pool and Wellness Centre
Use: commercial
Address: 2275 Quadra Street
Municipality: Victoria
Region: Urban core
Storeys: 2
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#1461 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 13 June 2019 - 01:37 AM

right. you could renovate the pool itself then work in all the other stuff over the next 5 years with only sporadic closures and detours.

like they do when renovating a shopping centre. rarely any full closure. as difficult and completely transformative as it was they built uptown without closing wlmart at all. the pool would be much easier to do in this way. just takes lnowhow.

Edited by Victoria Watcher, 13 June 2019 - 01:43 AM.


#1462 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 13 June 2019 - 03:46 AM

npna compares sites and throws in the rap playing field for extra measure:

 

http://npna.ca/wp-co...ns-Analysis.pdf

 

i'm starting to think the sj willis lower field is a good idea.


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#1463 spanky123

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Posted 13 June 2019 - 06:25 AM

npna compares sites and throws in the rap playing field for extra measure:

 

http://npna.ca/wp-co...ns-Analysis.pdf

 

i'm starting to think the sj willis lower field is a good idea.

 

Is this from NPNA? It just states that it is a volunteer's assessment. In my opinion the assessment is so simplistic as to be useless.



#1464 Nparker

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Posted 13 June 2019 - 07:06 AM

...In my opinion the assessment is so simplistic as to be useless.

You've just summed up the NPNA's modus operandi.



#1465 spanky123

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Posted 13 June 2019 - 07:19 AM

You've just summed up the NPNA's modus operandi.

 

Not true. They are generally pretty thoughtful and comprehensive in their outreach even though I may not agree with their approach. I am wondering if there are competing groups within the NPNA and that is why the messaging seems inconsistent at this moment.


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#1466 rmpeers

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Posted 13 June 2019 - 09:20 AM

Do we know how much CoV tax $$ has been spent on this to date?

#1467 spanky123

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Posted 13 June 2019 - 10:46 AM

Do we know how much CoV tax $$ has been spent on this to date?


At least $2.5M in cash and delays have added another $2.5M according to city staff

#1468 Mike K.

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Posted 13 June 2019 - 11:10 AM

So $5 million in total?

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#1469 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 13 June 2019 - 11:15 AM

I don’t buy into this “if we wait another 6 months it’ll cost us $1 million more” garbage.

if that was the case why are we delaying replacing the arena, city hall, utility poles, city vehicles, etc.? if the cost is inevitably just going to be so much more for future replacement.
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#1470 spanky123

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Posted 13 June 2019 - 12:19 PM

I don’t buy into this “if we wait another 6 months it’ll cost us $1 million more” garbage.

if that was the case why are we delaying replacing the arena, city hall, utility poles, city vehicles, etc.? if the cost is inevitably just going to be so much more for future replacement.

 

Actually 6 months costs us between $2M and $3M according to city staff.

 

Of course it is BS. The purpose isn't to provide an accurate estimate of cost, it is to allow staff to increase the size and scope of the pool budget while blaming the NPNA, DRA, Helps' political opponents or anyone else they want. Two years and they can claim that the pool budget is now $79M but that the size and scope haven't changed.


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#1471 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 14 June 2019 - 05:23 AM

back to square one. pool five years away.

https://www.timescol...pent-1.23855623

at least this council has come to realize they are inept.

Edited by Victoria Watcher, 14 June 2019 - 05:24 AM.


#1472 spanky123

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Posted 14 June 2019 - 06:27 AM

^ which means that nothing significant will be accomplished before this current term is over. 



#1473 On the Level

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Posted 14 June 2019 - 04:13 PM

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Well I am glad it is guaranteed to be less than $70 million.....

Edited by On the Level, 14 June 2019 - 04:14 PM.

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#1474 aastra

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Posted 14 June 2019 - 05:13 PM

I like linking to new aquatic centre studies* from other communities, so here's yet another one from Yellowknife...

 

page 49:

New construction is recommended rather than renovating the existing aquatic centre. Undertaking a renovation would necessitate working with the constraints inherent in the existing facility. A new construction does mean a blank slate which can help ensure the facility is developed exactly as desired to meet community needs.

 

*studies re: new aquatic centres, not new studies re: aquatic centres


Edited by aastra, 14 June 2019 - 05:18 PM.


#1475 LJ

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Posted 14 June 2019 - 07:26 PM

So where are they getting the funding from again? Shouldn't they be working on that before they do any pool work?


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#1476 aastra

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Posted 14 June 2019 - 07:33 PM

Folks in Yellowknife are flush with cash.



#1477 DavidSchell

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Posted 14 June 2019 - 08:01 PM

back to square one. pool five years away.

https://www.timescol...pent-1.23855623

at least this council has come to realize they are inept.

 

Biggest problem I see with this council and previous ones is they are so pro small sigs they sacrifice the greater good of the people ... sometimes the needs of the many out weigh the needs of the few.

 

They were elected to make tough choices and not buckle under to the first SIG that speaks out against the most logical choice.


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