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Crystal Pool and Wellness Centre
Use: commercial
Address: 2275 Quadra Street
Municipality: Victoria
Region: Urban core
Storeys: 2
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#1301 Jackerbie

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Posted 13 March 2019 - 10:56 AM

I'd like to say the CoV will learn from Richmond's mistakes, but...

 

It was delivered late, but within the $79 million budget. Let's see COV do that.


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#1302 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 13 March 2019 - 11:02 AM

are swimming pools even a good idea during a climate crisis?


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#1303 Nparker

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Posted 13 March 2019 - 11:03 AM

It was delivered late, but within the $79 million budget. Let's see COV do that.

Touché



#1304 spanky123

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Posted 11 April 2019 - 07:34 AM

Don't know why the Mayor waited 2 months to present this to council, but the Feds have rejected the Mayor's latest request for Crystal Pool funding.

 

https://pub-victoria...ocumentId=36068

 

By my count Mayor Helps has had 100% of her requests denied, most of which have been due to following the wrong process.


Edited by spanky123, 11 April 2019 - 07:35 AM.

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#1305 sdwright.vic

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Posted 11 April 2019 - 09:28 AM

Because she always does it her way.
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#1306 Mike K.

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Posted 11 April 2019 - 09:42 AM

Selina Robinson said she won’t entertain the project without a referendum. Now the feds said (again) they won’t entertain funding without provincial backing.

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#1307 Nparker

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Posted 11 April 2019 - 09:51 AM

Even if Her Worseship finally consents to a public referendum on this project and gets overwhelming support, based on the JSB fiasco, what guarantees are there that this won't go well over budget too?



#1308 spanky123

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Posted 11 April 2019 - 09:51 AM

If I was a City staffer I would be chuffed. You spend years developing relationships with your counterparts at other levels of Government and you work quietly and behind the scenes securing the funding and programs that fit the model. All of that then gets tossed out the window by a Mayor who thinks that she knows best and wants to try and raise her profile. 


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Posted 11 April 2019 - 09:55 AM

Even if Her Worseship finally consents to a public referendum on this project and gets overwhelming support, based on the JSB fiasco, what guarantees are there that this won't go well over budget too?

 

The City tested the idea and a referendum wouldn't pass. That is the sole reason why it wasn't attempted and the project ultimately shelved. 

 

The one thing I don't understand though is that the Mayor told us 2-3 years ago that if we didn't support the referendum then we would have to shut down Crystal Pool because it would be too costly to maintain. Here we are with no new pool and no short term plan to replace it yet it seems to be operating fine and within budget.


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#1310 Mike K.

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Posted 11 April 2019 - 10:11 AM

Reminds me of Fortin’s concerns courtesy of his engineers that the JSB would come crashing down within years if it wasn’t replaced. Recall that one of the first acts of the replacement project was the immediate removal of the rail span.
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#1311 Bob Fugger

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Posted 11 April 2019 - 10:37 AM

If I was a City staffer I would be chuffed. You spend years developing relationships with your counterparts at other levels of Government and you work quietly and behind the scenes securing the funding and programs that fit the model. All of that then gets tossed out the window by a Mayor who thinks that she knows best and wants to try and raise her profile. 

 

I don't get why that would be pleasing to staff?



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Posted 11 April 2019 - 10:45 AM

I don't get why that would be pleasing to staff?

 

I was being sarcastic hence the British word (the British can be very sarcastic!).



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Posted 11 April 2019 - 10:49 AM

Even if Her Worseship finally consents to a public referendum on this project and gets overwhelming support, based on the JSB fiasco, what guarantees are there that this won't go well over budget too?


I just take it as a given that it would go way over budget. If it does go ahead, it could be a boondoggle that casts a shadow over the reign of Mayor Isitt post 2022.

#1314 Bob Fugger

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Posted 11 April 2019 - 10:50 AM

I was being sarcastic hence the British word (the British can be very sarcastic!).

 

I see - I thought it was perhaps a malapropism of chafed.


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#1315 Nparker

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Posted 11 April 2019 - 10:51 AM

...Mayor Isitt post 2022.

I just died a little inside.



#1316 Jackerbie

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Posted 11 April 2019 - 03:25 PM

If I was a City staffer I would be chuffed. You spend years developing relationships with your counterparts at other levels of Government and you work quietly and behind the scenes securing the funding and programs that fit the model. All of that then gets tossed out the window by a Mayor who thinks that she knows best and wants to try and raise her profile. 

 

I don't get why that would be pleasing to staff?

 

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Posted 11 April 2019 - 08:45 PM

Even if Her Worseship finally consents to a public referendum on this project and gets overwhelming support, based on the JSB fiasco, what guarantees are there that this won't go well over budget too?

 

It was going to go over budget....we all knew that.  JSB is not yet done.....it's still out of control between legal and no fenders.

 

 

A watchdog group is citing previously unreleased consultants’ reports to suggest the Crystal Pool replacement could cost closer to $90 million — significantly more than the $69.4 million Victoria has budgeted.

 
But city officials maintain that the project is still in development and they are still working within the $69.4-million envelope.

 

https://www.timescol...lion-1.23426792

 

Does anyone seriously believe it would come in under $100M?   Does anyone seriously believe that Helps and crew would care?


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#1318 Nparker

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Posted 03 May 2019 - 03:19 PM

No surprise but the proposal to relocate Crystal Pool to the RG parking lot has died. New plan is to put it where the park is located at Central Middle School. Another $250K wasted.

Was this location ever considered before? And by "park" does this mean the school's playing field?

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#1319 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 03 May 2019 - 03:21 PM

where does that quote come from?  about the death of the rg idea?


Edited by Victoria Watcher, 03 May 2019 - 03:23 PM.


#1320 Nparker

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Posted 03 May 2019 - 03:29 PM

where does that quote come from?  about the death of the rg idea?

https://vibrantvicto...ssion/?p=490622



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