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#201 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 13 November 2019 - 06:52 PM

i might not challenge the tim horton's cup petition.  but the other ones were just grabbed by environmentalists worldwide and they ran the numbers up.

 

the reason i'm confident that cherry has mostly canadian signatures is because americans really are not familiar with him.



#202 RFS

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Posted 13 November 2019 - 07:33 PM

So Don Cherry should run for office.


At a minimum he'd do better than Kevin O'Leary
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#203 Benezet

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Posted 13 November 2019 - 07:48 PM

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#204 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 13 November 2019 - 08:32 PM

“It all happened so fast. I wish we could have had another day,” he said.

 

And now he is faced with trying to figure out what comes next?

 

He spent Wednesday at CBC headquarters meeting with Sportsnet brass and producers to work on just that.

 

“I am doing some thinking,” MacLean said Wednesday. “I am taking these days to sort and order what I will say Saturday.”

 

https://torontosun.c...ders-his-future


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#205 AllseeingEye

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Posted 13 November 2019 - 08:57 PM

After letting some of the Don Cherry dust settle my thoughts for what they're worth - bearing in mind I don't know the man of course. I suspect at heart he's a good guy for whom personal loyalty among other things is an important trait. He's also older at 85 and I guarantee even the most outraged person, especially those younger than the Don Cherry's of the world, that as you age so too will your beliefs become more entrenched and, insofar as younger people are concerned, they will fall out of fashion. It has ever been thus and that won't change anytime soon. 

Cherry is an unabashed and unapologetic Canada-First kind of guy and I'm more than OK with that.

 

Could he and should he have worded his comments differently on Coach's Corner? Obviously. And he's already stated that many times. He's become something of a cultural phenomenon and in the process become very wealthy so I don't feel sorry for him in that regard. He'll do fine whether he's on the air again or not. However....

 

....what did occur to me in light of this affair was the following; sooooo....Sportsnet wants to do - and, more importantly from a customer and public perspective - be SEEN to be doing, the "right thing", ethically and morally. So it immediately fires an employee who publicly makes a comment  or comments that certainly in today's world is not and are not acceptable. Okay...but...ethically and morally, how does that action square with the fact that front and center on the HNIC set sits a Huawei corporate logo...? Bear in mind too this is a network that is bleeding cash, largely as a result of a horrendous 12-year deal it signed for FIVE BILLION++ dollars to broadcast NHL games in Canada, a deal for which they are on the hook for several more years.....

 

You'll recall Huawei of course, an entity that may (or not) represent a significant security threat to this nation; either way it is certainly an organization in fact beholden by Chinese law, to the monolithic Chinese Communist state. You remember that  gang of course. Its the same very totalitarian state currently holding two Canadian citizens under dubious at best circumstances, on what are almost assuredly trumped up and wholly manufactured charges in retaliation for Canada upholding its end of a signed extradition treaty, something it had no choice but to do. In addition this same Chinese state is holding a third Canadian who is currently under threat of execution.

 

Now back to Sportsnet - so Cherry and his bad words also = Bad. Therefore (cash poor) Sportsnet 'does the right thing' and cans him. Fine.

 

But how is accepting millions and millions of $$$$$ in Huawei corporate sponsorship fees from a leading firm from a hostile state "doing the right thing" exactly? Sorry but on that subject I'm having a problem following the logic and forgive me for being a tad confused because - on the surface and were I a suspicious man - it kind of looks to me like, well...."doing the right thing" and being respectful of all cultures etc., is actually little more than a matter of interpretation and which only holds up until.......you know..........the threat of losing a s***-ton of  badly-needed cash rears its head, in which case nary a word is heard from SN. Cherry - Bad. Huawei....Good? Hm.


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#206 Rob Randall

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Posted 13 November 2019 - 09:10 PM

The Huawei angle makes it extra sticky, true. I don't trust that company one iota.

 

Could he and should he have worded his comments differently on Coach's Corner? Obviously. And he's already stated that many times. 

 

Look, he never apologized for what he said, only how he said it. He had ample opportunity to fix it but instead doubled down by going on Carlson and agreeing that people that were offended were "fascists". 


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Posted 13 November 2019 - 09:20 PM

The Huawei angle makes it extra sticky, true. I don't trust that company one iota.

 

 

Look, he never apologized for what he said, only how he said it. He had ample opportunity to fix it but instead doubled down by going on Carlson and agreeing that people that were offended were "fascists". 

Oh I know but my point was really the last paragraph. DC has paid for his sin(s). I'm far more interested personally in the Huawei angle. Of course there has been no hue or public outcry not even a meek mention of it so I suspect SN will continue to get a slimy pass. In true Canadian fashion we'll happily eat our own (even if in this case our own probably deserved it) but bend over backwards and be sweet and nice as pie to others....

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#208 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 13 November 2019 - 09:24 PM

the Huawei thing I guess is no more hypocritical than all of us that buy Chinese products. like our bridge.

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Posted 15 November 2019 - 08:25 AM

A man who shares the same name as the suspect arrested for spray painting the Old City Hall Cenotaph wrote a lengthy Facebook manifesto citing the emergence of ‘cancel culture’ and the firing of Don Cherry as the motives behind the vandalism.

 

On Friday, Toronto police announced that Thomas Christian Zaugg, 33, of Toronto, was arrested and is now facing two mischief-related charges.

 

Police allege Zaugg spray-painted the words “Ye Broke Faith” and “With Us” on the cenotaph a day after Remembrance Day.

 

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The Facebook manifesto also defends the use of vandalism to get his point across.

 

“They (soldiers) did not die for us to become this type of mentally straight jacketed society, unable to speak freely or share ones view. You people, the perpetually offended hyper-sensitive adult children, are ruining our society. And that’s why I spray painted the Cenotaph.”

 

https://toronto.city...taph-vandalism/


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#210 Wayne

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Posted 15 November 2019 - 08:41 AM

Nice for the him to assume he knows what the soldiers died for.


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#211 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 18 November 2019 - 02:53 PM

They may have knocked Don Cherry to the ice with a hit he didn’t see coming.

Now watch him get back up.

 

You people out there who want the 85-year-old Cherry back, here’s the news you have been hoping for.  You people who wanted him to fade away are out of luck as the former NHL coach of the year is going to be able to exercise his free speech, after all.

 

Don Cherry’s Grapevine is back once again. This time as a podcast.

 

https://torontosun.c...with-a-new-show


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#212 DustMagnet

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Posted 18 November 2019 - 05:35 PM

Can't anyone have a podcast?  This isn't some righteous vindication.



#213 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 18 November 2019 - 05:52 PM

Can't anyone have a podcast?  This isn't some righteous vindication.

 

it's kind of neat though how one week he has a multi-million dollar contract and reaches over a million canadians every week.  and then a week after he is fired he has a platform to reach billions around the world. 

 

roseanne barr really should do a podcast.


Edited by Victoria Watcher, 18 November 2019 - 06:04 PM.


#214 DustMagnet

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Posted 18 November 2019 - 09:48 PM

it's kind of neat though how one week he has a multi-million dollar contract and reaches over a million canadians every week.  and then a week after he is fired he has a platform to reach billions around the world. 

 

roseanne barr really should do a podcast.

 

To be fair, his reach to over a million Canadians every week was a push - they were already there for the game.  The podcast has a potential of billions - what's the realized number going to be?

 

Not saying he shouldn't do it, but the idea that he actually has a much bigger audience is not a given by any means.

 

Yes, Rosanne Barr should do a podcast.  Billions might listen.  Or maybe none.



#215 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 18 November 2019 - 10:02 PM

if what cherry said was so abhorrent why did the network replay the piece - twice that night - for the western timeslots?
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Posted 19 November 2019 - 03:24 PM

Forget sex, it's outrage that sells.


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#217 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 20 November 2019 - 11:20 AM

Forget sex, it's outrage that sells.

 

look what outrage has done for jordan peterson.  it's made him a very very wealthy man.



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Posted 20 November 2019 - 10:28 PM

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#219 todd

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Posted 21 November 2019 - 10:40 AM

Forget sex, it's outrage that sells.


I see it as scam. But Baywatch was the most popular show in the world.

 



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