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Victoria Police Chief Frank Elsner Investigated for inappropriate Twitter exchanges with wife of officer


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#821 spanky123

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Posted 16 October 2017 - 01:36 PM

A cynic might even think this is just another desparate delaying tactic to drag this sorry saga out for as long as possible.

 

The reality is that the details of the hearing will never be made public and even in the worst case scenario Elsner will never face any discipline since he has left the force. I doubt he even shows for the hearing.



#822 rmpeers

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Posted 16 October 2017 - 01:53 PM

The reality is that the details of the hearing will never be made public and even in the worst case scenario Elsner will never face any discipline since he has left the force. I doubt he even shows for the hearing.


What about the other aspects, e.g. allegation that funds earmarked for policing were used for a communications consultant to help manage the issue? Do you think we will ever hear anymore about that?

#823 Rob Randall

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Posted 16 October 2017 - 02:04 PM

The reality is that the details of the hearing will never be made public and even in the worst case scenario Elsner will never face any discipline since he has left the force. I doubt he even shows for the hearing.

 

If that's the case, I'd be more interested in seeing a wide-ranging inquiry, looking into everything bad about this whole mess: the mayors' responses, no oversight or supervision of official social media accounts, conflicts of interest etc. Like you say, I doubt Elsner will even get a slap on the wrist so I don't care about him now.



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Posted 16 October 2017 - 02:19 PM

What about the other aspects, e.g. allegation that funds earmarked for policing were used for a communications consultant to help manage the issue? Do you think we will ever hear anymore about that?

 

The PCC was on CFAX a few weeks ago and was asked about the issue related to funds. If I recall correctly, he stated that it wasn't really an area that the OPCC had jurisdiction over but they had sent comments to the police board and they never responded.



#825 rmpeers

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Posted 28 October 2017 - 11:24 AM

Heard a hearing finally took place (or at least started). Anyone else hear anything?

#826 spanky123

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Posted 28 October 2017 - 11:54 AM

Heard a hearing finally took place (or at least started). Anyone else hear anything?

 

It started and now has been adjourned until the end of November. CFAX reported that Helps is refusing to disclose who is paying for Elsner's legal fees as the matter is before the courts. I can't find any legal action that Elsner has initiated recently though.



#827 Rob Randall

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Posted 28 October 2017 - 12:21 PM

It started and now has been adjourned until the end of November. CFAX reported that Helps is refusing to disclose who is paying for Elsner's legal fees as the matter is before the courts. I can't find any legal action that Elsner has initiated recently though.


Would disclosing the source of Elsner's legal funding put the entire case in jeopardy or interfere in Elsner's right to a fair hearing? There's a lot of taxpayer money involved here.
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#828 spanky123

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Posted 14 November 2017 - 08:56 AM

Case now adjourned to January 15th. 

 

As I understand it, the case is being adjourned because Elsner does not have a lawyer. Elsner does not have a lawyer because he is disputing his legal fees with the Police Board. Members of the Police Board have been accused of lying to the public and trying to cover up sexual assault and harassment allegations within the department. The hearings might confirm or refute those allegations. As long as the fee dispute with Elsner remains unresolved, it appears as though the courts are willing to continue to adjourn hearings.

 

No conflict there.



#829 rmpeers

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Posted 14 November 2017 - 04:21 PM

Interesting. So who knows if we will ever find out:
What, if anything, Elsner did wrong.
If the police board covered it up.
If the police board used funds meant for actual policing for a consultant etc.
How much the whole thing has cost taxpayers.

Did I miss anything?

#830 57WestHills

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Posted 14 November 2017 - 04:47 PM

Well the Saanich portion will need to be public at some point. I think it's concluded but waiting for a disposition on the VicPD part. I'm not sure about that, though.

 



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