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#4161 DustMagnet

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Posted 22 May 2019 - 09:00 PM

test drive the vw egolf...pretty close to my old gti...but all electric

 

Is that the 12-18-month-delivery-with-the-200km-range-for-$36K eGolf?  Lots of pretty colours though, if you're willing to spend an extra $3K.



#4162 Tom Braybrook

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Posted 22 May 2019 - 09:33 PM

Is that the 12-18-month-delivery-with-the-200km-range-for-$36K eGolf?  Lots of pretty colours though, if you're willing to spend an extra $3K.

that's the one...and you notice i said test drive, i know they are a long wait - the new models slated for 2020/21 will have significantly better range and an all new platform

 

but as to the price;

 

$5k from the feds, $5k from the province, and trade in value would bring the price down i think...maybe even a $750 grant for a home charging station...my range today after a full charge is over 250km and there is already one and a half years use on the battery

 

mine is peacock green (looks black in the dark) - $0 standard colour



#4163 Matt R.

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Posted 22 May 2019 - 09:53 PM

We’d be looking at keeping the Prius for the kid, as she’s likely off to Uni after next year. #old

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#4164 DustMagnet

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Posted 23 May 2019 - 06:18 AM

that's the one...and you notice i said test drive, i know they are a long wait - the new models slated for 2020/21 will have significantly better range and an all new platform

 

but as to the price;

 

$5k from the feds, $5k from the province, and trade in value would bring the price down i think...maybe even a $750 grant for a home charging station...my range today after a full charge is over 250km and there is already one and a half years use on the battery

 

mine is peacock green (looks black in the dark) - $0 standard colour

 

But I like the orange...  <_<

 

So the 12-18 month wait is for 2019 low(er)-range, old platform models? Because that is pushing delivery into 2020...  Is availability of the 2020/2021 models expected to be improved?  I'm only going by what's on VW's site today.

 

If the new ones are are all-new (i.e. new platform) then is test driving the current unavailable, less desirable model worthwhile?


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#4165 Mike K.

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Posted 26 May 2019 - 09:03 AM

Here’s the latest “leaked” email to employees from Musk:

“As of yesterday, we had over 50,000 net new orders for this quarter. Based on current trends, we have a good chance of exceeding the record 90,700 deliveries of Q4 last year and making this the highest deliveries/sales quarter in Tesla history!”

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#4166 rjag

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Posted 26 May 2019 - 10:07 AM

Here’s the latest “leaked” email to employees from Musk:

“As of yesterday, we had over 50,000 net new orders for this quarter. Based on current trends, we have a good chance of exceeding the record 90,700 deliveries of Q4 last year and making this the highest deliveries/sales quarter in Tesla history!”

 

and yet their stock is tanking, Bond Yield is 9% which will cause a serious problem as it means they cant raise any real money through floating more Bonds https://markets.busi...25-usu8810laa18

 

They also have a few other bonds showing similar crazy yields

 

US88160RAE18 8/15/2025 5.3000% now 9.3739%
US88160RAD35 3/15/2022 2.3750% now 5.9717%
US88160RAC51 3/1/2021 1.2500% now 6.5942%

 

and then there is this piece

 

https://wolfstreet.c...s-teslas-bonds/

 

 

Carmageddon Sinks Tesla’s Bonds by Wolf Richter •  May 20, 2019  • 95 Comments • Email to a friend
Tesla is steeped in chaos – and chaos is absolutely the opposite what a complex manufacturing, distribution, and retail operation needs.

 


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#4167 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 26 May 2019 - 10:29 AM

why get so worked up about tesla?

 

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the first rarely wins.  why would you expect tesla to win?


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#4168 rjag

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Posted 26 May 2019 - 10:45 AM

I loved Netscape Navigator....

 

 

why get so worked up about tesla?

 

netscape navigator

beta video tape

altavista

myspace

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atari / commodore / texas instruments

 

the first rarely wins.  why would you expect tesla to win?


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#4169 Tom Braybrook

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Posted 26 May 2019 - 12:13 PM

But I like the orange...  <_<

 

So the 12-18 month wait is for 2019 low(er)-range, old platform models? Because that is pushing delivery into 2020...  Is availability of the 2020/2021 models expected to be improved?  I'm only going by what's on VW's site today.

 

If the new ones are are all-new (i.e. new platform) then is test driving the current unavailable, less desirable model worthwhile?

...my 2000 GTI was orange - loved it...

 

...yes, availability should improve, and the new platform, range, etc. is specifically designed for e-vehicles - not just an adapted Golf for example...

 

...the test drive would just confirm how well built the vw is, and what current models feel like - expect improved everything from new models...

 

...if you are keen to go electric,i suggest buying a used leaf or somesuch from Motorize in Sidney and waiting until 2021 for new models...



#4170 LJ

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Posted 27 May 2019 - 07:52 PM

A report on Global News last night had several traffic engineers etc. explaining that when autonomous vehicles are the majority on the road they expect congestion to increase by 30%, sounds good huh?

 

https://globalnews.c...estion-warning/


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#4171 Mike K.

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Posted 28 May 2019 - 05:37 AM

But Helps says things will get better?
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#4172 Tom Braybrook

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Posted 28 May 2019 - 07:24 AM

...tesla is dead?...

 

https://www.digitalt...ow-it-will-end/



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Posted 28 May 2019 - 07:34 AM

I was just googling to see how well Tesla was for quality and reliability.  From Consumer Reports October 2018 report on auto brands.   Here is a hint, look down at the bottom its waaaaaaaaaaaaaaay down there

 

https://www.usatoday...vey/1748024002/

 

1. Lexus  78

2. Toyota 76

3. Mazda 69

4. Subaru 65

5. Kia 61 (tie)

6. Infiniti 61 (tie)

7. Audi 60

8. BMW  58

9. Mini  57 (tie)

10. Hyundai  57 (tie)

11. Porsche  54

12. Genesis  52

13. Acura  51 (tie)

14. Nissan  51 (tie)

15. Honda  50

16. Volkswagen 47 (tie)

17. Mercedes-Benz 47 (tie)

18. Ford 45

19. Buick 44

20. Lincoln 43

21. Dodge 40 (tie)

22. Jeep 40  (tie)

23. Chevrolet 39

24. Chrysler 38

25. GMC 37

26. Ram 34

27, Tesla 32 (tie)

28, Cadillac 32  (tie)

29. Volvo 22



#4174 Mike K.

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Posted 28 May 2019 - 07:38 AM

Nio news out today, for what it’s worth:

Nio (NIO) shares advanced after the Chinese Tesla (TSLA) rival posted better-than-expected Q1 earnings. The firm also increased deliveries of its ES8, despite a fall in subsidies.

The strong delivery data heaps further pressure on its American rival, which is battling to get Chinese expansion plans off the ground amid waning investor sentiment. Tesla stock has plunged more than 50% since early August 2018.

Nio had adjusted per share loss of 36 cents, better than the 47-cent per-share loss expected by Wall Street analysts, according to Yahoo Finance. Revenue of $243 million was also higher than views.

Management said ES8 deliveries totaling 3,989 had exceeded the company's expectations even in the face of EV subsidy reductions, slowing macroeconomic conditions, increased competition, and seasonal factors related to the Chinese New Year holiday. However, it pointed to a challenging environment going forward.

- https://www.investor...-delivery-data/

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#4175 spanky123

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Posted 28 May 2019 - 07:41 AM

...tesla is dead?...

 

https://www.digitalt...ow-it-will-end/

 

Interesting opinion piece. Tesla is dead but it will live forever.



#4176 Mike K.

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Posted 28 May 2019 - 07:52 AM

I know we’re all wondering: has Leo sold his Tesla share?






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#4177 dasmo

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Posted 28 May 2019 - 12:30 PM

I am also curious if you sold your NIO shares.

#4178 Mike K.

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Posted 28 May 2019 - 12:53 PM

No way. I’ve purchased even more.

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#4179 Tom Braybrook

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Posted 29 May 2019 - 06:52 PM

...a quick fyi...kids took my e-golf and left me their Fiat 500e (electric cinquacento)...

 

it is a 2015 model he picked up used a couple of years ago, and i just gave it a full charge - reads 158km range... 



#4180 Mike K.

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Posted 29 May 2019 - 07:14 PM

Dang kids.
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