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#4321 sebberry

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Posted 30 October 2019 - 05:29 PM

Looking at the actual part it looks far more complicated than a traditional setup, so it must have something to do with the regenerative system.

 

Sorry, I missed a crucial bit - a normal brake booster is power assisted by engine vacuum.  There's no engine drawing a vacuum in a Leaf, so it's electric assist.  Still unlikely tied into the regenerative braking though beyond monitoring the brake pedal force and dumping power from the motor back into the battery.  


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Posted 30 October 2019 - 05:47 PM

Sorry, I missed a crucial bit - a normal brake booster is power assisted by engine vacuum.  There's no engine drawing a vacuum in a Leaf, so it's electric assist.  Still unlikely tied into the regenerative braking though beyond monitoring the brake pedal force and dumping power from the motor back into the battery.  

 

ah yes.  perhaps it does have some sensors in it though to cooperate with/activate the regenerative braking?  something has to tell the electric engine to go into that mode  maybe those are on this master cylinder.  



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Posted 01 November 2019 - 02:27 PM

^this is why opposition to site C utterly exposed so called environmentalists as irrational ideologues. IMO the NDP and their supporters lost massive credibility on that file.


I have to give some of the blame to the BC Utilities Commission for saying site C wasn't needed. That was a bit of a head-scratcher.

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Posted 05 November 2019 - 08:59 AM

On the NIO front, the company has teamed up with Intel to build self-driving cars. The cooperative effort was announced today.

 

I had lunch with a friend yesterday who drives a Tesla. He said the company recently turned down the juice at its superchargers due to what many are saying was an explosion of a Tesla in China, which literally blew up (presumably while charging? I dunno). Tesla's superchargers at Uptown now fill up a vehicle in 1 hour and 20 minutes as opposed to 40 minutes.


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Posted 05 November 2019 - 09:37 AM

Really?  Wait until the writer finds out that carriages can be horseless.

https://www.vancouve...hmond-bc-video/

 

 

However the barometer of bizarre raised a few notches on Monday afternoon when a Tesla vehicle was spotted “driving itself” around the Richmond Centre parking lot.

 

Malice* or incompetence... hard to call on this one.

 

* AKA clickbait.



#4326 Rob Randall

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Posted 06 November 2019 - 09:27 AM

Condo Smarts: Points to ponder for decisions on charging stations

 

If the alteration is a significant change in the use or appearance of common property, the strata corporation is required to seek the approval of the owners by a three-quarter vote at a general meeting. If permission is granted under the bylaws, the strata corporation may impose conditions on the approval. These could include the cost of the installation, cost of changes or upgrades, future cost of maintenance, additional insurance costs if any, what occurs in the event the owner sells their unit and the new buyer does not have an electric vehicle and any other obligations that may arise.

 



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Posted 06 November 2019 - 02:03 PM

Having a charger in a condo complex has become an asset to sales. Promontory and Bayview don't have any chargers. Encore has quite a few. Buyers aren't going to want to sell their electric vehicles, nor do they want to be continually inconvenienced.

Parking spots in those condos are typically permanently attached to the unit. If your spot is near the electrical vault you now have an asset.

Stratas, particularly the large ones, need to take a bigger view. Right now the chance of single owners being able to organize and sway a 3/4 vote at an annual AGM is almost impossible.

If the government is serious about electric vehicles in condos it may very well have to change the strata act make the process easier.

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Posted 06 November 2019 - 02:28 PM

Stratas, particularly the large ones, need to take a bigger view. Right now the chance of single owners being able to organize and sway a 3/4 vote at an annual AGM is almost impossible.

If the government is serious about electric vehicles in condos it may very well have to change the strata act make the process easier.


IMO, bylaw amendments generally seen as 'permissive' should only have to meet a simple majority threshold, bylaws seen as 'restrictive' should have to meet a 3/4 threshold.

Too many buildings with a small holdout of grumpy old people just can't get anything changed.

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Posted 06 November 2019 - 04:15 PM

But just the other week we were talking about there not being a need for chargers at individual buildings, that charging stations will flourish on their own.

So investing into a $200k charging solution might not be a smart move over the medium term.

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Posted 06 November 2019 - 04:54 PM

But just the other week we were talking about there not being a need for chargers at individual buildings, that charging stations will flourish on their own.

 

that might have been me saying that.  

 

but i still can't figure out why milk and bread delivery went away but now skip the dishes flourishes.



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Posted 06 November 2019 - 05:04 PM

Not only is it flourishing, it’s a headache for people who go to restaurants or take-outs and need to wait 20-25 minutes for their order even though there’s hardly a soul around after the STD guys come and go.

In some cases it’s getting a little ridiculous.
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Posted 06 November 2019 - 10:25 PM

that might have been me saying that.  

 

but i still can't figure out why milk and bread delivery went away but now skip the dishes flourishes.

 

What about Chef's Plate, Hello Fresh, etc...?

Milk and bread delivery is alive and well as part of grocery chain home delivery.



#4333 LJ

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Posted 07 November 2019 - 07:47 PM

Lucid Motors has broken ground on their electric vehicle production facility in Casa Grande, Arizona.

 

https://www.theverge...na-saudi-arabia


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Posted 08 November 2019 - 10:48 AM

Really?  Wait until the writer finds out that carriages can be horseless.

https://www.vancouve...hmond-bc-video/

 

 

Malice* or incompetence... hard to call on this one.

 

* AKA clickbait.

 

A followup article quotes ICBC indicating that Summon mode is illegal to use in BC (parking lots are considered roadways) and that the insurance policy may be void if Summon is in use.  Another update needed for the MVA?

 

https://driving.ca/t...-allowed-in-b-c

 

 

“Currently, B.C. laws do not permit driverless vehicles on our roads,” ICBC said in a statement. “A vehicle being driven autonomously in a shopping mall parking lot, for example, is not allowed. The driver is responsible for the operation of the vehicle including when driver assistance is activated.”

 


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Posted 09 November 2019 - 07:12 AM

this article is kind of interesting but short of hard figures.  it's about reusing car batteries for fixed installations.

 

 

 

In his pursuit to completely get off fossil fuels, David Elderton has switched anything with a motor — from his car to his chainsaws — over to battery power.

 

Even the three-bedroom home he shares with his partner on B.C.'s Salt Spring Island is powered, in part, by a battery from a wrecked Tesla Model S he bought last year; it charges via solar panels mounted on his shed.

 

The size of two large coolers side by side, he says the battery can keep the lights on for up to five days with conservative power use, and about a day when almost everything is running.

 

Elderton is part of a community of do-it-yourself electricians offering the batteries from totalled or end-of-life electric vehicles a second life.

 

"It's a good feeling not to be buying gas anymore," he told Day 6.

 

 

https://www.cbc.ca/r...eries-1.5352030


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Posted 09 November 2019 - 02:04 PM

this article is kind of interesting but short of hard figures.  it's about reusing car batteries for fixed installations.

 

 

 

In his pursuit to completely get off fossil fuels, David Elderton has switched anything with a motor — from his car to his chainsaws — over to battery power.

 

Even the three-bedroom home he shares with his partner on B.C.'s Salt Spring Island is powered, in part, by a battery from a wrecked Tesla Model S he bought last year; it charges via solar panels mounted on his shed.

 

The size of two large coolers side by side, he says the battery can keep the lights on for up to five days with conservative power use, and about a day when almost everything is running.

 

Elderton is part of a community of do-it-yourself electricians offering the batteries from totalled or end-of-life electric vehicles a second life.

 

"It's a good feeling not to be buying gas anymore," he told Day 6.

 

 

https://www.cbc.ca/r...eries-1.5352030

so here is the scholarly paper on battery recycling... https://www.nature.c...019-1682-5#Abs1


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Posted 09 November 2019 - 02:49 PM

so here is the scholarly paper on battery recycling... https://www.nature.c...019-1682-5#Abs1

...and another interesting read about high-mileage tesla's in fleet use... https://qz.com/17371...-million-miles/



#4338 Rob Randall

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Posted 09 November 2019 - 03:15 PM

^Fascinating concept. A car that refuses to die. Flooding the market with used models, collapsing the used gasoline car market.



#4339 Mike K.

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Posted 09 November 2019 - 03:33 PM

A car that refuses to die is bad for business, so don’t expect manufacturers to sell these vehicles if they expect to stay in business.

Nissan’s Leaf is insanely over-engineered so as to avoid the pitfalls of its other vehicles. The company can’t afford to have axles break or steering gears to fail (we also know that a Nissan Leaf master cylinder replacement is $4,000) in this early stage.

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Posted 09 November 2019 - 03:45 PM

A car that refuses to die is bad for business, so don’t expect manufacturers to sell these vehicles if they expect to stay in business.

 

But don't people swap cars every ten years or so as their needs change regardless if the car is in good condition or not? Super-reliable cars would affect the secondary market more. Tesla would have to expand its lineup with minivans and economy cars to ensure buyers don't stray from the brand when their lifestyle changes.



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