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[Mike K.]

It has been years of our discussion on this topic.

What is the TL:DR synopsis of the EV industry in Canada, as we head for the first government mandated forced injection of these vehicles into our society?

I have never seen a technology not asked for by the people who will be forced to use it, like I have with these EVs. People loved their cellphones, and embraced smart phones.

We loved appliance advancements, the PC, and so much other innovation. But here, we supposedly love EVs so much, the government has to physically force us into them over a short period of time.

This tells me government is on the wrong side of history and that people at large do not want, and are not asking for, this technology shift.

[Victoria Watcher]

I do not know if the federal government has a plan for anyone that does not meet their EV targets. It also would seem an entire new level of beaurocracy might be required to properly track the penalties that they don’t have.

Edited by Victoria Watcher, 22 June 2025 - 08:27 AM.

[Mike K.]

The charging network is still awful. EVs are expensive as all heck compared to the gas equivalent, and their resale value is tragic.

Now couple that to the rising cost of electricity and all that winning must lead to one thing: forced adoption.

[Victoria Watcher]

Probably 95% of vehicles do not need anything above level 1 or 2 charging, for 95% of their usage. It’ll probably work out.

The good news is you can buy an ICE up to 2035 and use your existing ICE indefinitely.


There is a good chance we as a species ruin civilization well before 2050, the end of life date for your new 2035 ICE purchase.

Edited by Victoria Watcher, 22 June 2025 - 08:38 AM.

[Victoria Watcher]

[max.bravo]

I think we just need to get realistic about ev capabilities and become honest about use cases where they make sense.

Because the battery capacity degrades over time, and charging is a daily pain in the butt, EVs make sense for urban daily commuting. That’s about it.

ICE vehicles make sense for every commercial application, for road trips, for people who drive >100km daily, or who want the ability to do those things.

[dasmo]

Pretty much. At least for the next decade. Mandatory anything is usually a bad idea. Just let it happen organically and it will find its place in a good way.

[Victoria Watcher]

I think we just need to get realistic about ev capabilities and become honest about use cases where they make sense.

Because the battery capacity degrades over time, and charging is a daily pain in the butt, EVs make sense for urban daily commuting. That’s about it.

ICE vehicles make sense for every commercial application, for road trips, for people who drive >100km daily, or who want the ability to do those things.

I think you’ve oversimplified it.

[Victoria Watcher]

[Victoria Watcher]

https://x.com/elonmu...761702482604061

 

[Victoria Watcher]

U.S. Senate Republicans late Friday released a revised tax and budget bill that would end the $7,500 tax credit on new electric vehicle sales and leases on September 30 as well as the $4,000 tax credit for used EVs.

 

The prior version would have ended the credit for new sales 180 days after the bill was signed into law, 90 days for used vehicles and immediately ended the credit for leased vehicles not assembled in North America and meeting other requirements.

 

Republicans have taken aim at EVs on a number of fronts, a reversal from former President Joe Biden’s policy that encouraged electric vehicles and renewable energy to fight climate change and reduce emissions.

 

The House of Representatives version would allow the $7,500 new-EV tax credit to continue through the end of 2025, and through the end of 2026 for automakers that have not yet sold 200,000 EVs before killing it.

 

https://www.investin...mber-30-4115318

Edited by Victoria Watcher, 28 June 2025 - 01:48 AM.

[Victoria Watcher]

World's First Autonomous Delivery of a Car | Tesla

 

Full video 3 minutes:  https://youtu.be/GU1...D1szw6-ocyz925Q

[Victoria Watcher]

Autonomous Tesla Delivery | Long Version

 

30 minutes:  https://youtu.be/lRR..._wLhihG9_G6izPI

[Victoria Watcher]

I find this a bit funny.  There is nearly zero the MSM can report on this that is bad.   So the MSM is just ignoring the story. 

 

And it's quite a story, when you think about it.

 

I talked about this type of autonomy before when we were talking about the Jasper fires.   I'm certain fire trucks could have been driven around in there and saved houses with this type of tech.

Edited by Victoria Watcher, 28 June 2025 - 07:18 AM.

[Victoria Watcher]

Honda details plans for dozen-plus new hybrids by 2030

The Japanese automaker says it's leaning into the powertrain as a way to "bridge the gap" with electric vehicles

 

https://driving.ca/a...hybrids-by-2030

[Victoria Watcher]

Vancouver Launches A Bougie Car Club With Expensive Memberships

 

 

https://604now.com/v...uxury-car-club/

 

 

 

Members get unrestricted access to VLCC’s expensive fleet made of 70 curated cars. From Ferraris to Aston Martins, they’ve got plenty of high-price vehicles for their members to enjoy. 

 

 

[...]

 

 

A personal membership will run you up $60,000 with the initiation fee. Following that, it’ll be a monthly fee of $5,500.

Edited by Victoria Watcher, 30 June 2025 - 02:04 AM.

[Victoria Watcher]

Jim Farley, the CEO of Ford, said on Friday that the Chinese EV industry posed a serious threat to the American automaker.

Farley was speaking to the author Walter Isaacson during a panel at the Aspen Ideas Festival when he was asked about China's EV market. Farley said he'd made about six or seven trips to China in the past year.

"It's the most humbling thing I have ever seen. Seventy percent of all EVs in the world, electric vehicles, are made in China," Farley said.

"They have far superior in-vehicle technology. Huawei and Xiaomi are in every car," Farley added. "You get in, you don't have to pair your phone. Automatically, your whole digital life is mirrored in the car."

 

https://finance.yaho...PLGyF6jHqQkgYFd

[dasmo]

They play the victim? Right. This is ten years in the making just looking at what Tesla was doing. They were doing nothing but taking their bonuses. They have killed the company but not before they rob us with more bailouts.

[Victoria Watcher]

[dasmo]

Haha. Who’s supposed to be the heel and who’s the face?