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#3881 DustMagnet

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Posted 19 March 2019 - 06:09 PM

Yeah, most YouTubers try the various collision avoidance systems against cardboard boxes.



#3882 MarkoJ

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Posted 19 March 2019 - 07:16 PM

Wasn’t Marko’s Tesla eligible for incentives?

I realize now when I said Canada I meant BC.

 

It was but I bought mine before March 2016 when they introduced the price cap. It was kind of funny getting $5k back on a $110k car to be honest.


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#3883 LJ

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Posted 19 March 2019 - 07:18 PM

Ever felt compelled to find out if your car’s safety features work as advertised?

Some absolute genius thought it would be a great idea to try out his Tesla’s Autopilot Emergency Braking system by driving straight at his own wife.








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Are we sure he was testing the system?????


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#3884 LJ

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Posted 19 March 2019 - 07:20 PM

Currently qualifying for the incentive are:

Nissan Leaf (Current model): $36,700
Hyundai Ioniq: $37,500
VW Golf: $36,700
Kia Soul EV: $35,900
Chevy Bolt: $44,800

Not qualifying
Hyundai Kona: $45,600
Kia Niro: Slightly more than Kona
Tesla Model 3: $47,600

I suspect they are hoping that the $45k cutoff will convince the long range EV manufacturers to drop their prices a bit immediately.

If you just have 120V plug ins in your garage is a charger still doable or do you need 240V?


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Posted 19 March 2019 - 08:06 PM

It was but I bought mine before March 2016 when they introduced the price cap. It was kind of funny getting $5k back on a $110k car to be honest.

 

I find it sad that taxpayers are subsidizing purchases of $110,000 cars, to be honest :) 


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#3886 Mike K.

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Posted 19 March 2019 - 08:09 PM

Yes. Plus $6000 scrap it if you have an old car.

Tax goes on before incentives come off

So hold on, $10k in BC+Fed incentives, plus $6000 for ANY vehicle you bring in for scrap?

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#3887 LeoVictoria

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Posted 19 March 2019 - 09:16 PM

So hold on, $10k in BC+Fed incentives, plus $6000 for ANY vehicle you bring in for scrap?

Yeah the scrapit credits are not a provincial thing I think and very limited in quantity but yes you could conceivably get $16k total off

Are you a government program?
No, SCRAP-IT is a not-for-profit independent society which relies on private funding, grants and contributions from a variety of sources as well as program partners in order to offer incentives to customers.

Edited by LeoVictoria, 19 March 2019 - 09:22 PM.

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#3888 LeoVictoria

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Posted 19 March 2019 - 09:21 PM

If you just have 120V plug ins in your garage is a charger still doable or do you need 240V?


Charger that comes with the car will charge but very slowly. Like 10km/hour.

That’s what we use though. Don’t drive much so don’t care it it takes longer to charge.

Proper charger is advised for decent charging speeds (and charging is a bit more efficient)

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Posted 19 March 2019 - 09:25 PM

I find it sad that taxpayers are subsidizing purchases of $110,000 cars, to be honest :)


Well we went from no limit to $77k limit to $45k limit so it’s going in the right direction.

But the $300M allocated is only enough for 60,000 vehicles over 3 years. About 40,000 Zevs sold last year so these will be gone quick.

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Posted 19 March 2019 - 09:26 PM

Hmmm.

Can the specialized home chargers be installed on an external wall exposed to the elements?

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#3891 LeoVictoria

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Posted 19 March 2019 - 10:05 PM

Hmmm.

Can the specialized home chargers be installed on an external wall exposed to the elements?

Yup no problem.

Just need the spare capacity in the service. 240V/40A circuit. Charger will draw about 30A. For purpose of the load calcs a charger is counted as 100% so basically will need 150 or more likely 200A service.

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#3892 Tom Braybrook

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Posted 19 March 2019 - 10:35 PM

Yup no problem.

Just need the spare capacity in the service. 240V/40A circuit. Charger will draw about 30A. For purpose of the load calcs a charger is counted as 100% so basically will need 150 or more likely 200A service.

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Posted 20 March 2019 - 06:22 AM

Ok now we’re talking. I wasn’t aware a Leaf and VW EV are sub $40k. At $10k of incentives that starts to even out the playing field.

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#3894 LeoVictoria

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Posted 20 March 2019 - 06:53 AM

Ok now we’re talking. I wasn’t aware a Leaf and VW EV are sub $40k. At $10k of incentives that starts to even out the playing field.


Yeah, the problem is those are kind of first or 1.5 gen vehicles so range is around 200-250km. That’s fine for EV enthusiasts and early adopters but not gonna cut it for general public where I think 400-500km range is required.
Keeps getting cheaper though

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Posted 20 March 2019 - 06:59 AM

Yes, agreed. If they were in the 400km range even I would consider becoming an early adopter but for now it’s a tough sell for me.

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Posted 20 March 2019 - 09:18 AM

Tesla standard range model 3 MSRP is $47,600 in Canada. I suspect they will find a way to make it $45,000 to allow buyers to qualify for this incentive.

I was thinking this as well.

However, simply adding an option, such as any colour other than the standard black will have you over the $45K threshold, assuming Tesla were to drop the base price to $44,900.

Edit, OK maybe this will be a valid strategy assuming the $45K maximum is base price.


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#3897 Bob Fugger

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Posted 20 March 2019 - 09:26 AM

I was thinking this as well.

However, simply adding an option, such as any colour other than the standard black will have you over the $45K threshold, assuming Tesla were to drop the base price to $44,900.

 

So for the CEVforBC rebates, it's based on MSRP, rather than retail: one would hope that it's the same for the feds, provided that's what Quebec and Ontario want.  So I'm sure that manufacturers will figure out a scheme to their respective vehicles below that MSRP and then allow the dealer to mark it up or have other trim levels.



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Posted 20 March 2019 - 02:03 PM

Regarding Tesla, the US/CAD exchange rate could complicate the situation with the dollar heading for 70 cents.


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#3899 LeoVictoria

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Posted 20 March 2019 - 02:14 PM

Not sure if it’s heading anywhere. Had been pretty stable around 75 cents since late 2015

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Posted 20 March 2019 - 02:16 PM

1.22 in September 2017, 1.31-1.33 this month (82/73-76).


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