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#21 LeoVictoria

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Posted 29 December 2015 - 02:27 PM

I'd also wager that the vast majority of drivers like/have fun driving. Giving up the pleasure of driving to a computer will absolutely suck and most won't want a vehicle that absolves them of the driving experience.

There are those who will want to be a vehicle that is autonomous but they will be few and far between, at least for the foreseeable future.


How many people enjoy commuting? The vast majority will certainly prefer to sleep or work or watch TV on the way to work rather than be tied to a wheel in a traffic jam.

As for the joy of driving, I enjoy driving but the driving I have to do is not fun. And look at the younger generations. Many are even now not bothering to get a driving license until well into their 20s and we don't even have autonomous cars yet. I'll bet my kids never get a license at all.

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Posted 29 December 2015 - 02:29 PM

That's already done. Big trucks in mines are already autonomous. Next step is the uncontrolled road for long distance trucking, then the general public.


I kinda think that open roads are the last place where we should take humans out of the loop - lots of possibilities for many variables in road conditions between say, Calgary and Saskatoon...
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Posted 29 December 2015 - 02:34 PM

commonplace in 5 years is a pipe dream I think. There should and likely will be more than there is now, and perhaps we'll even see some here by then, but commonplace? Maybe by 2030.



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Posted 29 December 2015 - 05:16 PM

How many people enjoy commuting? The vast majority will certainly prefer to sleep or work or watch TV on the way to work rather than be tied to a wheel in a traffic jam.

As for the joy of driving, I enjoy driving but the driving I have to do is not fun. And look at the younger generations. Many are even now not bothering to get a driving license until well into their 20s and we don't even have autonomous cars yet. I'll bet my kids never get a license at all.

 

My kids are 21 & 19 and both couldn't wait to get their license. This applies to most of their friends as well...only 1 or 2 weren't in such a rush, but once they discovered they were being left behind they went ahead. I asked both my kids if they have any friends that don't have a license and they couldn't think of 1 person.

 

They are very much into tech, but also figured out there aren't too many ways of getting home at 3A.M. either!!!

 

I guess its something inherited from their parents. We are a very mobile family and live/work/play throughout the region/island/mainland. One is currently in Sydney Aus. for a year and would be absolutely stuck if she didn't share a car with her boyfriend.

 

I can see a time in the future where in large metro areas that vehicle use will be minimized, I cant see it in outlying communities such as Port Hardy or Sooke or Mill Bay, I just cant see those folks giving up their cars. Like I said earlier, I think there will be a place for them, but replacement of the personal human driven vehicle....not for many years



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Posted 29 December 2015 - 06:41 PM

I can see a time in the future where in large metro areas that vehicle use will be minimized, I can't see it in outlying communities such as Port Hardy or Sooke or Mill Bay, I just can't see those folks giving up their cars.

Like I said earlier, I think there will be a place for them, but replacement of the personal human driven vehicle....not for many years

 

I can't ever see it being compulsory to own one, but if you want to give the public a taste why doesn't some entrepreneur start up a driverless taxi fleet and see how much business is out there.


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Posted 29 December 2015 - 08:04 PM

I can't ever see it being compulsory to own one, but if you want to give the public a taste why doesn't some entrepreneur start up a driverless taxi fleet and see how much business is out there.


About as much as there is for pilotless aircraft.
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#27 Bingo

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Posted 29 December 2015 - 09:20 PM

About as much as there is for pilotless aircraft.

 

...and driverless Land Rovers on the Serengeti.



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Posted 30 December 2015 - 12:06 AM

I can't ever see it being compulsory to own one, but if you want to give the public a taste why doesn't some entrepreneur start up a driverless taxi fleet and see how much business is out there.

What do you think Google, Apple, Uber, etc are up to? They aren't going after the old model. Disruption can happen fast. Look at the smart phone...

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#29 dasmo

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Posted 03 January 2016 - 10:08 AM

This is a big accomplishment!
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#30 MarkoJ

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Posted 03 January 2016 - 11:38 AM

I got to drive a Tesla a few days ago in Vancouver.....the AutoPilot is impressive.

 

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#31 SimonH

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Posted 03 January 2016 - 01:31 PM

I drove the P 85 + a couple of years ago. I liked the internal space ( huge) and the  centralized infotainment screen.

 

However the fixtures and fittings felt as though they belonged to a cheap American car.

 

After research I also discovered that after charging there is leakage from the battery ( upto 10% of charge) making the forecasted mileage per charge not attainable.

 

0 -60 performance was good but you won't do it many times per drive as it sucks on your battery.

 

Priced at over $100,000 it was a no no. Far better petrol alternatives.



#32 LeoVictoria

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Posted 03 January 2016 - 03:33 PM

I got to drive a Tesla a few days ago in Vancouver.....the AutoPilot is impressive.

 

Psst... You have your hands on the wheel.  That's not AutoPilot, that's MarkoPilot.

 


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#33 MarkoJ

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Posted 03 January 2016 - 07:11 PM

I drove the P 85 + a couple of years ago. I liked the internal space ( huge) and the  centralized infotainment screen.

 

However the fixtures and fittings felt as though they belonged to a cheap American car.

 

After research I also discovered that after charging there is leakage from the battery ( upto 10% of charge) making the forecasted mileage per charge not attainable.

 

0 -60 performance was good but you won't do it many times per drive as it sucks on your battery.

 

Priced at over $100,000 it was a no no. Far better petrol alternatives.

 

I thought the interior was pretty good; I think Tesla improved the interiors substantially in the last two years.  The 2nd gen seats are so much better than the 1st gen.  The one I drove also had the premium center console, etc.   

 

Compared to my loaded BMW 435i I would say interiors are comparable in quality but way different.  My BMW has quite a bit of tech with a unique combination of old school 6 spd stick shift and manual handbrake which are nice touches in my opinion.  Tesla is 100% new school with the massive screen, useful for pulling up my website :)

 

I am on the boarder of ordering one.  Holding me back is the $5,000 BC EV rebate would probably evaporate by the time of delivery and the price tag.  I drive about 40,000 km a year so there is a substantial gas savings but the 100k+ mentally upfront is a little tough to absorb.  Also because my mileage is business and gas a write-off the savings aren't as much for someone who drives mostly for non-business reasons.


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Posted 03 January 2016 - 11:18 PM

I don't think I could leave a 435i 6 speed for a Model S.  I mean the S is a nice car, but the BMW is a driver's car.


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#35 dasmo

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Posted 03 January 2016 - 11:23 PM

I'm sure Marko is just having a blast driving everywhere for work. Woo hoodoo!!! He would have way more fun getting his clients excited showing them his new schools vehicle and bringing up the specs of the of house he is showing up on the monitor as he drives his clients there. Putting his car in auto pilot so he can better converse on the phone and manage his business as he drives. Also impressing his clients and softening them up. Then at the end of the day he can put his Tesla in ludicrous mode and blow away any sports car on the market.



#36 LeoVictoria

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Posted 03 January 2016 - 11:52 PM

Note to self, write app for Tesla that displays nearby listings from realtor.ca and neighbourhood info

#37 dasmo

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Posted 04 January 2016 - 12:37 AM

Note to self, write app for Tesla that displays nearby listings from realtor.ca and neighbourhood info

Yep. The connected car is here. It will need apps. The car is the office for realtors. It's an office for many. Having to drive your car is like having to do your laundry down by the river. It's not the best use of your time...  I know I know, People enjoy being out in nature and getting exercise...



#38 Mike K.

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Posted 04 January 2016 - 07:22 AM

I think I'm starting to recognize when dasmo posts while high :)
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#39 dasmo

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Posted 04 January 2016 - 08:07 AM

I think I'm starting to recognize when dasmo posts while high :)

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Posted 04 January 2016 - 08:12 AM

So if everyone loves driving so much then why is texting while driving such a growing trend... You can see by these stats you old guys are out of touch.VuWo7jd.jpg


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