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#1281 lanforod

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Posted 17 November 2017 - 03:51 PM

Keep writing that, but that's not what I'm seeing reported everywhere....  :teacher:



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Posted 17 November 2017 - 04:02 PM

Keep writing that, but that's not what I'm seeing reported everywhere....  :teacher:

 

My link is right from the Tesla Canada site!



#1283 LJ

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Posted 17 November 2017 - 07:40 PM

Walmart has ordered a whole bunch of the trucks and they want them fully autonomous capable.


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#1284 VicHockeyFan

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Posted 17 November 2017 - 07:44 PM

Walmart said that it would test five of the Tesla tsla Semis in the U.S. and another 10 in Canada. Walmart declined to comment on when it plans to test the vehicles and how it plans to do so.
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Posted 17 November 2017 - 07:50 PM

Walmart has ordered a whole bunch of the trucks and they want them fully autonomous capable.

 

Walmart wants to cut costs.  Truck drivers cost money.


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Posted 17 November 2017 - 07:56 PM

Consumers want to cut costs. That’s why they shop at Walmart.
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Posted 17 November 2017 - 08:15 PM

Walmart is the middleman between China and the landfill...


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#1288 LJ

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Posted 17 November 2017 - 08:16 PM

But the trucks will still get stuck like this

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#1289 VicHockeyFan

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Posted 17 November 2017 - 08:18 PM

But they will only need half as many since they run 24/7.


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Posted 18 November 2017 - 09:02 AM

How do you run 24/7 on a claimed 800km range?

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Posted 18 November 2017 - 09:23 AM

How do you run 24/7 on a claimed 800km range?

 

You change out the batteries in the service yard, and put them in the big "home charger".  Unpractical to do with your own car in your garage, you do not have a lift or forklift type mechanism to change them, or an extra $7,000 for the spare battery set.  You do at the truck yard.

 

Where the "sleeper" is now, that's your battery pack space.


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#1292 Mike K.

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Posted 18 November 2017 - 09:30 AM

I'm not so sure if there's a financial advantage here.

 

Those batteries are very expensive and have very short lifespans. Your average truck won't require an overhaul for 1.5 million kilometres. Those batteries will last at most 200,000 km and by that point the range will have been drastically reduced.


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#1293 VicHockeyFan

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Posted 18 November 2017 - 09:37 AM

1.5M km with no oil change?   Seriously though, I think 1.5M is on the very high end before you need a major engine work, I think it's closer to 800k.


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#1294 Mike K.

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Posted 18 November 2017 - 09:45 AM

It's not the high end, that's about average.

 

Diesel engines, man!


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Posted 18 November 2017 - 10:38 AM

1.5M km with no oil change? 

 

No, until an overhaul/rebuild is necessary. 


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#1296 VicHockeyFan

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Posted 18 November 2017 - 10:50 AM

It's not the high end, that's about average.

 

Diesel engines, man!

 

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Posted 18 November 2017 - 11:05 AM

One of the things that gives big trucks their incredible longevity is the fact that they run all the time. That actually reduces wear on the engine components as everything is constantly lubricated.

 

And it's the same for train locomotives that move 7,000km over the span of a couple of days. They'll run for millions of kilometres before requiring an overhaul.


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#1298 VicHockeyFan

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Posted 18 November 2017 - 11:09 AM

One of the things that gives big trucks their incredible longevity is the fact that they run all the time. That actually reduces wear on the engine components as everything is constantly lubricated.

 

That's what she said.  My mechanic instructor.  Oh ya, for sure, cold starts are the worst for engines.


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#1299 VicHockeyFan

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Posted 18 November 2017 - 11:10 AM

And it's the same for train locomotives that move 7,000km over the span of a couple of days. They'll run for millions of kilometres before requiring an overhaul.

 

That's why you just leave them running sometimes, even overnight in the cold (see: Lac Megantic).  Also, sometimes when you turn the damn thing off, it'll just be a pain to get running again.  Now suddenly your 4-engine train is down to 3, and you gotta haul the dead one too boot, to the next yard.  Trust me, turning on a train is not like turning your key in your car ignition, and 99.9% of the time it works.  Every time you start up a train, there is some hope and finger crossing too.


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#1300 Mike K.

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Posted 18 November 2017 - 11:16 AM

Yes!

 

And big rigs will run their engines 24 hours a day, too. They don't get shut off unless it's absolutely necessary. 


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