Electric and autonomous cars in Victoria and on Vancouver Island
#1801
Posted 01 April 2018 - 08:41 PM
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#1802
Posted 01 April 2018 - 09:49 PM
#1803
Posted 02 April 2018 - 06:02 AM
As for the death, it is bad news for Tesla for sure. Yes the guy should have been paying attention and the crash barrier was not repaired as it should have been but still one should expect autopilot not to steer you into a wall.
I did some really stupid options on my Tesla like $5,600 factory wheels but I thought autopilot was so useless (in Victoria) that I didn't bother with the $3,600 autopilot option. Then one morning I got into the car and they gave me a 30 day test try. I used it every day for 30 days and it totally sucks.....driving north on the Pay Bay Hwy it would drift into the Keating Cross turnoff and then swerve back. Tons of other stupid crap. There was no way it was safe to let go of the steering wheel let alone look down at something.
When they quote autopilot accidents per km they are quoting it against the average driver and the average driver is horrible as literally anyone can get a driver's licence. I think personally at this point and time I am safer driving myself.
Self-driving is decades (well at least one) away in my opinion.
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#1804
Posted 02 April 2018 - 10:45 AM
Self-driving is decades (well at least one) away in my opinion.
I tend to agree. If you can't get it right during clear conditions, you're not going to get it right in the rain, fog or snow.
#1805
Posted 02 April 2018 - 11:28 AM
https://www.huffingt...cahpmg00000001
Woops
Shares in Elon Musk's electric car company Tesla plunged nearly 7 per cent on Monday morning after some pretty funny — but maybe not very well-thought-out — tweets from the billionaire on Sunday.
#1806
Posted 02 April 2018 - 01:28 PM
Good video showing what likely happened in this crash. Similar type of exit, left line clearly marked, right side not so much. Autopilot follows left line and crashes into barrier
https://youtu.be/6QCF8tVqM3I?t=24s
#1807
Posted 02 April 2018 - 01:30 PM
I did some really stupid options on my Tesla like $5,600 factory wheels but I thought autopilot was so useless (in Victoria) that I didn't bother with the $3,600 autopilot option. Then one morning I got into the car and they gave me a 30 day test try. I used it every day for 30 days and it totally sucks.....driving north on the Pay Bay Hwy it would drift into the Keating Cross turnoff and then swerve back. Tons of other stupid crap. There was no way it was safe to let go of the steering wheel let alone look down at something.
When they quote autopilot accidents per km they are quoting it against the average driver and the average driver is horrible as literally anyone can get a driver's licence. I think personally at this point and time I am safer driving myself.
Self-driving is decades (well at least one) away in my opinion.
Judging the state of autonomous driving based on the implementation of a lanekeeping feature designed about 4 years ago is probably not very accurate. The leaders here are Waymo/Google, not Tesla (or Uber).
#1808
Posted 02 April 2018 - 01:47 PM
Judging the state of autonomous driving based on the implementation of a lanekeeping feature designed about 4 years ago is probably not very accurate. The leaders here are Waymo/Google, not Tesla (or Uber).
The tech is all very similar, they keep stealing engineers from each other so I wouldn't be surprised if the code wasn't 90% similar between them!
#1809
Posted 02 April 2018 - 02:35 PM
#1810
Posted 02 April 2018 - 02:53 PM
400,000 model 3’s have been preordered.
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#1811
Posted 02 April 2018 - 03:19 PM
The initial goal was 5k/wk at end of 2017. Then 5k/wk by March 31. Then 2500/wk by March 31. So they aren't far off the 3rd goal, though whether that is sustainable is questionable, as reports are they achieved >2000/wk by pulling staff from X and S lines.
https://www.bloomber...ill-fall-short
When I saw the April fools tweet, my first thought was he wouldn't dare do that on a market day. I guess it didn't make any difference to idiot traders or algorithms!
#1812
Posted 02 April 2018 - 03:21 PM
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#1813
Posted 02 April 2018 - 04:34 PM
I suspect the drop in the stock price had more to do with the NTSB investigation than the silly tweet. Traders might be jumpy but not that jumpy.
There was negative news that came out after the market closed last week....nothing to do with the tweets.
psychological is so messed up. I told myself I would buy Tesla at $300 and CND @ 0.80 or some combination of the two. It is way below that I still haven't pulled the trigger.....lol.
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#1814
Posted 02 April 2018 - 06:46 PM
There was negative news that came out after the market closed last week....nothing to do with the tweets.
psychological is so messed up. I told myself I would buy Tesla at $300 and CND @ 0.80 or some combination of the two. It is way below that I still haven't pulled the trigger.....lol.
Haha if only stocks could decline without bad news
#1815
Posted 02 April 2018 - 06:47 PM
#1816
Posted 02 April 2018 - 06:51 PM
But quality has been compromised since late 2017. Model 3's are being delivered with nasty gaps and sub-standard components are being installed despite the company being aware that they may break/be defective shortly after delivery. And these were issues when they were rolling out 500 vehicles per week.
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#1817
Posted 02 April 2018 - 07:08 PM
#1818
Posted 02 April 2018 - 07:28 PM
I dunno, but even the big media are taking note. Reuters: Build fast, fix later: speed hurts quality at Tesla, some workers say
Here's a fan site's coverage: https://www.teslarat...n-video-review/
Sandy Munro, CEO of Munro & Associates, an automotive benchmarking firm based in Detroit, believes that the Tesla Model 3’s build quality is incredibly lacking. In a video of his observations on the vehicle, the teardown specialist lamented on the Model 3’s apparent haphazard construction and flawed design, from its panel gaps and trunk to its non-mechanical interior rear door handles.
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#1820
Posted 02 April 2018 - 07:48 PM
That’s all you got?
Same article:
Perhaps the reason could be provided by Jalopnik, however, which reported that Munro & Associates’s most prolific clients are GM, Ford, and Chrysler, otherwise known as the Big Three of the legacy American auto industry.
Edited by VicHockeyFan, 02 April 2018 - 07:50 PM.
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