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#3681 Daveyboy

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Posted 09 March 2024 - 02:35 PM

There's an old saying...FOLLOW THE MONEY


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#3682 Beacon

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Posted 11 March 2024 - 09:55 AM

We all have rights, but when those rights threaten the collective rights of society, the overall well-being of society must prevail.

 

 

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#3683 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 11 March 2024 - 10:02 AM

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Why do we refuse to take into care and custody persons who are a danger and are at risk to themselves and society, who are mentally ill, drug addicted, or engaged in criminal activity? Why are we not affording the same care and compassion to these citizens as our seniors and children receive?

Governments, influenced by human rights activists and civil libertarians, say we can’t, it would infringe on individual rights to act without their consent. Rubbish!

What a contradiction. Somehow, we can take seniors and children into care/custody, but not those mentally ill, drug addicted, cognitively impaired and those involved in criminal behaviours. Where on earth is compassion, care, and support for these individuals?

Instead, the government succumbs to vocal minorities and chooses to push more funding to non-profits, fund unsupported ghetto housing, increase drug permissiveness and safe injection programs to “support” (?) these individuals who are not capable or able to adhere to the agreed values and norms of society. And we continue to allow these citizens to struggle day-to-day in dystopia.

This is not support, this is enabling and an abrogation of responsibility. This is shameful.
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#3684 Nparker

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Posted 11 March 2024 - 10:15 AM

...Governments, influenced by human rights activists and civil libertarians, say we can’t, it would infringe on individual rights to act without their consent...

Remind me again how government didn't infringe on my individual rights during the height of the "pandemic"?


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#3685 Daveyboy

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Posted 11 March 2024 - 10:46 AM

^^

Yes but that was a "national crisis"....but wait, isn't this a "national crisis" as well? 


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#3686 Beacon

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Posted 11 March 2024 - 10:46 AM

Remind me again how government didn't infringe on my individual rights during the height of the "pandemic"?

 

Your rights are only important to maintain if it serves toward an ideological goal for the NDP. 


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#3687 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 12 March 2024 - 12:58 AM

No evidence of widespread diversion of B.C. safe-supply drugs, say Farnworth and RCMP

 

Mike Farnworth told reporters he had spoken to the RCMP's commanding officer in B.C. about the seizure in Prince George and was told the idea that there is widespread diversion is "simply not true."

 

A subsequent statement attributed to John Brewer, assistant commissioner with the B.C. RCMP, echoed Farnworth's remarks.

 

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RCMP in Prince George said last week that a recent seizure of thousands of pills included morphine and hydromorphone, two drugs that are part of B.C.'s program offering prescription alternatives to people at risk of overdose from consuming toxic street drugs.

 

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In response to a request for details on whether any of the pills seized in Prince George had originated from the safe-supply program, RCMP Staff Sgt. Kris Clark sent an email saying police would not provide further information.

 

In the RCMP news release last week, Cpl. Jennifer Cooper said police had noticed "an alarming trend over the last year," uncovering increasing amounts of prescription drugs in trafficking investigations.

 

The pills are being used as a form of currency to purchase more potent, illicit street drugs, she added.

 

Cooper also said, "organized crime groups are actively involved in the redistribution of safe supply and prescription drugs," some of which are resold outside B.C.

 

 

 

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#3688 dasmo

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Posted 12 March 2024 - 05:45 AM

Liars are going to lie.
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#3689 Nparker

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Posted 12 March 2024 - 05:47 AM

Sounds like the RCMP were told to toe the official party line.
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#3690 E2V

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Posted 12 March 2024 - 06:22 AM

A perfect example of misinformation in the media.
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Posted 12 March 2024 - 06:33 AM

Yep. First
Farnworth said "some but not all" of the drugs seized in Prince George and in another investigation in Campbell River were from the safe-supply program.

So there is evidence….
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#3692 dasmo

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Posted 12 March 2024 - 06:37 AM

Second, he then starts making stuff up….

He alluded to the possibility of prescription pill counterfeiting, saying criminal organizations were "extremely sophisticated in terms of how they can make things look."

Then the RCMP shut up….
In response to a request for details on whether any of the pills seized in Prince George had originated from the safe-supply program, RCMP Staff Sgt. Kris Clark sent an email saying police would not provide further information.
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#3693 Beacon

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Posted 12 March 2024 - 06:38 AM

Favorite line:

When Eby was asked about Poilievre's comment over the weekend, the premier said he was reluctant to speculate about the actions of future governments, but added the direction is clear for B.C. and it was keeping people alive. 

 

 

 

So how's that all working out?  Have OD deaths and calls for ODs dropped or risen?


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#3694 dasmo

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Posted 12 March 2024 - 06:59 AM

So fix our healthcare system….

#3695 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 12 March 2024 - 07:04 AM

Favorite line:

 

So how's that all working out?  Have OD deaths and calls for ODs dropped or risen?

 

There of course is always the opportunity to say "it would have been worse if not for our programs".



#3696 Nparker

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Posted 12 March 2024 - 07:23 AM

That's a theory we should be testing.


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#3697 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 12 March 2024 - 07:29 AM

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#3698 JimV

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Posted 12 March 2024 - 01:44 PM

Even at 5,000 prescriptions that could be a lot of pills.  How many per day, maybe three?  That would be about 1,000/year.  Times 5,000=over a million pills.  Sounds to me like plenty of trouble just waiting to happen.



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Posted 12 March 2024 - 01:52 PM

Three?? Some take almost 30 per day.

 



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