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[Victoria Watcher]

I posit that most people in prison can rarely afford drugs. They indeed might do it occasionally when they have saved up canteen money.

But I bet per capita daily consumption is quite small in person.

Edited by Victoria Watcher, 30 July 2025 - 07:01 AM.

[Beacon]

Prison is drenched in drugs, usage is through the roof

 

The guards are in on it, drones drop off packages and people smuggle it in, yes literally by shoving it up their ass. the inmates have a currency system  - ever heard of bails of tobacco?  Favours and protection are traded.

 

This is reality.  Prison is not free of drugs, one could argue it is worse.

[Beacon]

‘Be better’: VicPD criticizes Island Health interaction with alleged drug trafficker on consumption site doorstep

 

“A service provider is coming out, engaging with this drug trafficker while this drug trafficker is making transactions. It’s unprofessional. I’m extremely disappointed to see that,” said Victoria Police Chief Del Manak on Tuesday. “That is absolutely unacceptable.”

As part of ‘Project 3D’, Victoria undercover officers observed a service provider talking with a man posted up in a lawn chair allegedly trafficking cocaine to a lineup of customers, on the front stoop of an Island Health consumption site on the 900-block of Pandora called The Harbour.

 

https://cheknews.ca/...orstep-1269314/

[Victoria Watcher]

Prison is drenched in drugs, usage is through the roof

The guards are in on it, drones drop off packages and people smuggle it in, yes literally by shoving it up their ass. the inmates have a currency system - ever heard of bails of tobacco? Favours and protection are traded.

This is reality. Prison is not free of drugs, one could argue it is worse.

Lolz. Where do you suggest prisoners get money for drugs?

You are WRONG.


Guards are in on it for sure. But most prisoners have no income or savings or means to buy significant drugs.

Edited by Victoria Watcher, 30 July 2025 - 11:14 AM.

[Beacon]

I already mentioned that:

 

 the inmates have a currency system - ever heard of bails of tobacco? Favours and protection are traded.

 

 

People (family, friends, crime accomplices) from outside can deposit money into their accounts (up to a limit) AND they have an entire other currency system.  There is no need for to have actual $ especially if you are able to offer protection as a service.

[Victoria Watcher]

I already mentioned that:

 

 

People (family, friends, crime accomplices) from outside can deposit money into their accounts (up to a limit) AND they have an entire other currency system.  There is no need for to have actual $ especially if you are able to offer protection as a service.

 

True.   But the average "outside" addict has a much larger daily drug budget than the average prisoner.  It's not even remotely close.

Edited by Victoria Watcher, 30 July 2025 - 11:43 AM.

[dasmo]

Lolz. Where do you suggest prisoners get money for drugs?

 

[Victoria Watcher]

The BC Coroners Service's latest numbers on toxic drug overdoses for May and June, for the first time, include the deceased person's occupation.

According to statistics released on Thursday, July 31, the two most common industries for current and past employment are trades, transport and equipment operators at 21 per cent and sales and service at 10 per cent. Occupation was not known in 55 per cent of deaths.

There were 145 deaths in May and 147 deaths in June, about 4.7 and 4.9 deaths per day, respectively. It's down from the 177 deaths reported in April, but roughly in line with the 138 reported in February and the 146 reported in March. There were 162 deaths in January.



https://www.vicnews....ay-june-8168977

Edited by Victoria Watcher, 31 July 2025 - 01:00 PM.

[Victoria Watcher]

'No plans' to renew safer supply funding after federal support quietly runs out

 

31 programs for people struggling with addictions lost funding in April

 

https://www.cbc.ca/n...upply-1.7595544

[Victoria Watcher]

Comment: Consumption sites are part of the solution

 

It exists because people are dying alone, every day, from a poisoned drug supply. Because prevention, compassion and public health matter more than optics.

 

https://www.timescol...lution-11019823

 

 

 

 

Instead of closing the Harbour, we should be strengthening it. Adding outreach teams. Scaling up services. Meeting people where they are, including those who are not yet ready or able to walk through its doors.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Addiction is very bad.  We should not be meeting anyone where they are, we should be encouraging them to come for support, and make the effort.

Edited by Victoria Watcher, 01 August 2025 - 02:39 AM.

[Victoria Watcher]

Bleeding hearts have hurt Victoria

 

 

So the cops arrested a loser who was set up in a lawn chair outside a “safe ­injection site” selling cocaine blatantly, and people were lined up to buy it!

 

When police questioned the people running the site, they said they knew about it, but it wasn’t their job to do ­anything. Really?

 

The story of this ridiculous town just gets more ridiculous every day! When is somebody going to take charge and do something about what this town has become?

 

Start with getting rid of the bleeding hearts that set up the “tent sites” that supply these druggies.

 

I can not believe the stupidity that is allowed to run rampant in this town without any regard for the people that contribute to society, work for a ­living, take responsibility for themselves, and pay taxes — all apparently so the ­politicians and bleeding hearts can give it all away to the druggies and deadbeats that are taking over Victoria.

 

What the hell is wrong with us?

 

 

 

Mike Butler

Victoria

 

 

https://www.timescol...ctoria-11020272

 

 

 

Edited by Victoria Watcher, 01 August 2025 - 03:43 AM.

[Barrister]

Supporting the druggies has been an industry in Victoria and one that turns out in elections for the politicians that fund them. When things dont make sense, it often helps to follow the money.

[Victoria Watcher]

And if you really think about it, it’s potentially dangerous for those staffing these sites to be calling the police.

 

Who and where do you think these drugs are coming from? These are ruthless people who protect their business at all costs — even taking someone’s life is not outside the possibility.

 

The humanitarian service that is provided at The Harbour safe injection site is the last-ditch attempt to keep a person alive until, God forbid, we can get our act together and solve this problem together.

 

There are thousands of examples of drug addicts getting sober and becoming leaders of society, and helping others. One of those people on the block could now be under that constant need for drugs.

 

Imagine if that were you. Wouldn’t you want someone to help you out of that hole? I would.

 

The problem of Pandora is drugs, drugs, drugs. Instead of doing a sweep to remove the tents and the people off the block, how about instead doing a sweep to get the dealers off the street?

 

And get those dealers’ suppliers, who just might be living in a house in Oak Bay, in jail.

 

That is the police chief’s job, not the job of people working in The Harbour.

 

 

 

 

 

https://www.timescol...andora-11028658

 

 

 

 

There are thousands of examples of drug addicts getting sober and becoming leaders of society, and helping others. 

 

 

No, there isn't.

Edited by Victoria Watcher, 04 August 2025 - 05:37 AM.

[Victoria Watcher]

Safe consumption has made things worse

 

 

Consumption sites are part of the root cause of Victoria’s drug culture problem. They are a haven, a king’s excuse, a way to totally break the law with complete impunity.

 

We have recently been told they have been shielding and condoning the lethal drug dealers who operate in what seems to be a partnership.

 

If I host a party and one of my guests drives home drunk, it is I who is also liable. But not in the drug culture ­community funded by my provincial and property taxes.

 

In the Island Health world of drug lording, the madam in the drug den is a community hero.

 

The Island Health drug dens cause and promote drug addictions and the ­inevitable life-altering consequences, crime and tax wastage.

 

No lives are being saved, only activists moaning for more tax dollars.

 

 

Michael Muret

Victoria

 

 

 

 

Anti-poverty industry has made things worse

Re: “City’s new safety plan is doomed to fail,” letter, July 30.

 

Sad to say, but Rev. Al Tysick has it ­basically backward; the efforts to ­alleviate homelessness and poverty in general are the main contributors to its continuing expansion and deleterious effect on society.

 

It’s a case of the welfare state returning to port after its 75-year tour of the globe, having made conditions worse wherever it visited.

 

Now it returns to its home ports in the First World to find them looking more and more like the Third-, Fourth- and Fifth-world hellholes it set out to rescue.

 

The anti-poverty industry founded by (Liberal) government in the early 1970s has expanded poverty beyond belief. Homelessness wasn’t even a word when I graduated from high school in 1969.

 

The surge in addiction really took off when someone decided it wasn’t a vice or crime, but an “illness” for which the ­sufferer wasn’t responsible.

I think the “welfare state” is the lie that enables every evil.

 

It tells people it is the government’s job to provide them with their every need, and if they fail or fall short, it is not their responsibility but society’s fault for failing them.

How’s that working out?

 

I salute Tysick for having spent a life trying to alleviate the pain of others, but he was fighting an invincible foe. In fact, he was possibly exacerbating the ­situation by interfering with nature’s merciful culling force that truncates the suffering of the weak and ill-adapted.

 

Cold words, I confess, but sometimes a cold eye is worth more than sentimental emotions.

 

His efforts may have had local and temporary benefits, but ultimately, they fed the adversary they opposed.

 

 

Michel Murray

Saanich

 

 

 

https://www.timescol...-sites-11028556

[Victoria Watcher]

[Matt R.]

Not weighted for population he says

[Victoria Watcher]

 

Edited by Victoria Watcher, 05 August 2025 - 09:00 PM.

[Victoria Watcher]

Not weighted for population he says

 

No, it's just straight numbers.  But Saanich population is much higher than Victoria.

[Barrister]

Obviously, the epicenter of the problem is with Sidney.

[Victoria Watcher]

All Grade 10 students will learn first aid in gym class starting in September, and every B.C. school will be required to have medical kits to treat cardiac arrests and reverse overdoses.

 

The Ministry of Education policy changes are the direct result of persistent advocacy by a group of Vancouver high school students who watched their friend die from cardiac arrest, as well as from the parents of a University of Victoria student who didn’t get the help she needed after being poisoned by toxic drugs.

 

Tobias Zhang, who is going into Grade 12 at Point Grey Secondary, was pleased to hear about the changes. 

 

Zhang and several of his classmates began lobbying last year for automated external defibrillators, or AEDs, for their school after his best friend collapsed during a Grade 9 basketball tryout in 2022. The 911 operator told the students to find an AED, but the school didn’t have one.

 

“It makes me feel like I can rest a little bit easier now,” he said. “It’s nice to know that this device will be in schools, and we’ll all be a little bit safer in school.”

 

The ministry confirmed that performing CPR and using AEDs will now be part of the Grade 10 physical education curriculum at public and private schools when classes resume this fall, so “every student will have the opportunity to gain these life‑saving skills.”

 

 

 

https://www.timescol...evices-11035337

Edited by Victoria Watcher, 06 August 2025 - 05:52 AM.