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#541 Matt R.

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Posted 20 November 2022 - 11:25 AM

Would these vacation homes have been rented out for a few months of the year, is that what you mean?

 

 

Yes, exactly.  We are still seeing the rentals available October-May but fewer and fewer.  There have always been folks who would find a rental for the winter and then camp or go pick fruit etc in the summer but those rentals are getting more scarce.



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Posted 20 November 2022 - 11:28 AM

Would these vacation homes have been rented out for a few months of the year, is that what you mean?

There are so many variables in play here. You’ve got people pulling secondary suites off the market. You have migration to vacation properties as full time residences. You’ve got overall growth in population from people flooding out of the east and prairies. You’ve also got people buying houses that otherwise would have been rented out.

But if this 30% population increase is legit, why haven’t we heard even anecdotally how busy it is? Wouldn’t we also see a 30% increase in ferry ridership? 30% increase in business at virtually all businesses?

Something doesn’t add up here. My guess is Statscan is basing most of this population increase on the number of vacation homes that were registered as full time residences out of concern the spec tax was coming.

 

Yes, everything is busier, ferries and businesses as well - anecdotally at least.  If you know anyone else is the SGI, ask around.  All I hear about is how crazy the ferries are now.  Of course I do basically live and breathe ferry traffic so likely more attuned to it than a normal person.



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Posted 20 November 2022 - 04:28 PM

Not sure many are proactively deceiving the census. But who knows.


Not the census, the pending spec tax. It just got caught in the census.

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Posted 20 November 2022 - 04:29 PM

Yes, everything is busier, ferries and businesses as well - anecdotally at least. If you know anyone else is the SGI, ask around. All I hear about is how crazy the ferries are now. Of course I do basically live and breathe ferry traffic so likely more attuned to it than a normal person.


Could that not be increased tourism, mostly? The coast has exploded in popularity. The entire island is bananas.

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Posted 20 November 2022 - 05:15 PM

Yes that’s part of it for sure but you can see the overloads on the Crofton to Vesuvius ferry daily, that’s not tourists mid November. That’s people who live here going off island for services. Probably a similar story on the other sgi’s.
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#546 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 22 December 2022 - 12:14 PM

https://www.cbc.ca/n...tscan-1.6694065


Alberta sees largest population increase ever: StatsCan data

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Posted 22 December 2022 - 12:15 PM

https://www.cbc.ca/n...tscan-1.6694065


Alberta sees largest population increase ever: StatsCan data

 

Jobs all coming back?  All provinces have an increase however...  I guess they usually do.


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Posted 23 December 2022 - 12:15 PM

Florida is the fastest-growing state in the US for the first time since 1957: Census Bureau

Florida, Texas are growing while states in the Northeast, Midwest are losing residents



https://www.foxnews....7-census-bureau

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Posted 24 December 2022 - 07:10 AM

Canada’s population growth hit its fastest pace in five decades thanks to record immigration.

Over the past 12 months, the number of international migrants to Canada totaled 822,866 — by far the largest influx in historical data to the mid-1970s, Statistics Canada reported Wednesday in Ottawa.

That figure, which includes immigrants and non-permanent residents like students, pushed Canada’s annual population growth rate to an average of 2.3% over the past year, the fastest since 1972.

From July 1 to October 1, the number of Canadians grew 362,453 to 39.3 million, the agency said. That’s equivalent to 0.9% of the population, the fastest quarterly gain since 1957, when the country was in the midst of a baby boom and welcoming refugees fleeing the Hungarian revolution.



https://www.bnnbloom...862266.amp.html

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#550 Nparker

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Posted 24 December 2022 - 07:22 AM

That's 822,866 additional people who needed homes in Canada this year. I guess there is no housing crisis after all.
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Posted 24 December 2022 - 10:27 AM

What were the numbers over the last few years? Is this just pent up demand waiting while the IRCC played catch up, or whatever games they play?
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Posted 24 December 2022 - 07:06 PM

Whoa. I’ve always thought of Canada as having about 30m people. Now it’ll have to be 40m
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Posted 27 December 2022 - 04:45 AM

https://www.theglobe...issions-canada/

 

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Posted 28 December 2022 - 11:07 PM

B.C. Lottery Corporation taking bets on where New Year's baby will be born

British Columbia Lottery Corporation's PlayNow site is accepting bets on which hospital will welcome the province's New Year's baby.

https://www.timescol...be-born-6305407




It’d be fun to do this for deaths too.

Or deaths on the operating table. Really get the doctors involved.

Doctor: now I must remind you, although this surgery is typically very safe, every operation has some risk.

Patient: oh ya, how much risk are we talking?

Doctor: PlayNow has your odds of dying at less than 2%. But the anestheoligist and the head nurse here both have money riding on this. So we are going to try to substantially beat those odds, and collect a decent jackpot.

Patient: let it ride!

Doctor: indeed we will, we’ve got it paired with a hysterectomy at Vic General for a parlay that pays 6:4.

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Posted 30 December 2022 - 06:35 AM

 
Les Knight, the founder of the Voluntary Human Extinction movement.Credit...Mason Trinca for The New York Times
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PORTLAND, Ore. — For someone who wants his own species to go extinct, Les Knight is a remarkably happy-go-lucky human.

He has regularly hosted meteor shower parties with rooftop fireworks. He organized a long-running game of nude croquet in his backyard, which, it should be mentioned, is ringed by 20-foot-tall laurel hedges. Even Tucker Carlson proved no match for Mr. Knight’s ebullience. During a 2005 interview with Mr. Knight on MSNBC, Mr. Carlson criticized him for espousing “the sickest” of beliefs but then added, “You are one of the cheeriest guests we’ve ever had.”

Mr. Knight, 75, is the founder of the Voluntary Human Extinction movement, which is less a movement than a loose consortium of people who believe that the best thing humans can do to help the Earth is to stop having children.

 

Mr. Knight added the word “voluntary” decades ago to make it clear that adherents do not support mass murder or forced birth control, nor do they encourage suicide. Their ethos is echoed in their motto, “May we live long and die out,” and in another one of their slogans, which Mr. Knight hangs at various conventions and street fairs: “Thank you for not breeding.”

On Nov. 15, the Earth became home to a record eight billion human beings. Despite declining birthrates, the number is forecast to peak at 10.4 billion in the coming decades, in large part because of increases in life expectancy and decreases in child mortality.

Mr. Knight is among those who believe that overpopulation is a main factor in the climate crisis, but that idea can be fraught. Poor countries that are heavily populated, such as India, contribute relatively little per capita to the greenhouse gas emissions that are heating the planet. Wealthy countries with relatively smaller populations like the United States are generating most of the pollution that is driving global warming.

 

 

https://www.nytimes....extinction.html


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#556 Mike K.

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Posted 30 December 2022 - 06:48 AM

But millions of Indians move to first world countries and countries where there are quality of life improvements, annually.

It’s shortsided to look at emissions in isolation by country like that, unless you’re being purposely misleading. The open borders phenomenon is another kink in the above narrative as people from very poor countries are moving in large numbers to the West.
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Posted 30 December 2022 - 06:50 AM

But millions of Indians move to first world countries and countries where there are quality of life improvements, annually.

It’s shortsided to look at emissions in isolation by country like that, unless you’re being purposely misleading. The open borders phenomenon is another kink in the above narrative as people from very poor countries are moving in large numbers to the West.


Luckily that fusion is coming.

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Posted 30 December 2022 - 08:35 AM

It appears then that the solution to the "climate crisis" is to increase global poverty. If so, then most Western world governments have got this covered.

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Posted 04 January 2023 - 06:30 AM

Japan is paying Tokyo families with kids to leave the city to lower its population, and paying nearly $40k USD for them to do it if they have two kids under the age of 18, and plan to start a business in their new community.

The initiative is part of an overall effort by authorities to help areas that are struggling with populations that are getting older and smaller. Officials are also eager to thin out the packed areas of Tokyo.


- https://www.dailywir...ve-out-of-tokyo

We are doing the opposite, for now, and indirectly incentivizing people to move into the larger cities.

Could we see plans like this in BC’s future?

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Posted 04 January 2023 - 06:39 AM

We are doing the opposite, for now, and indirectly incentivizing people to move into the larger cities.


^ how so? Other than job opportunities.

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