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#4361 lanforod

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Posted 12 July 2018 - 06:36 PM

So was the new Johnson Street Bridge but that didn't stop the feds from putting $21 million towards the project.

 

Why shouldn't British Columbians expect a significant federal subsidy for the system when the east coast receives one?

 

We'll get one when Vancouver Island becomes a province.


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#4362 57WestHills

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Posted 12 July 2018 - 07:22 PM

The Queen of Alberni is a floating mechanical disaster. These new major ships which are rolling out to contracting cannot come soon enough. I also confirmed one of the five is a new extra major, and the Oak Bay / Surrey stay in service with the New West retired.... As it should have been a decade ago.

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#4363 AllseeingEye

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Posted 12 July 2018 - 07:59 PM

Wonder if BCF ever inquired about acquiring any of the (fleet) assets of the old CN Marine which was disbanded in the late 1980's; not certain whether their bow/stern design would have allowed them to dock at BCF terminals but I do know the largest were ro-ro designs and they significantly larger/heavier than the Spirit-class boats. The ships were built almost at exactly the same time as the Spirit-class and were broken up only a few years ago. Seems odd ferries of that size and relatively recent vintage wouldn't have commanded a market somewhere, if not here. Not sure possibly their ice-breaking hull configuration made them unsuitable for the west coast.

 

Given the political optics that seem to arise any time BCF wants to update the fleet - building ships externally vs at home - I am curious whether purchasing existing assets from other ferry systems was/is part of their replenishment strategy.



#4364 jonny

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Posted 12 July 2018 - 08:05 PM

Why shouldn't British Columbians expect a significant federal subsidy for the system when the east coast receives one?


Two wrongs don't make a right.

#4365 jonny

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Posted 12 July 2018 - 08:07 PM

The Queen of Alberni is a floating mechanical disaster. These new major ships which are rolling out to contracting cannot come soon enough. I also confirmed one of the five is a new extra major, and the Oak Bay / Surrey stay in service with the New West retired.... As it should have been a decade ago.


The Alberni is one of the most reliable ships in the fleet and logs among the most sailing hours.

#4366 grantpalin

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Posted 12 July 2018 - 08:49 PM

The constitution requires that the federal government manage or fund ferry services that travel between provinces, which currently only applies in the Atlantic region. Doesn't apply here as Vancouver Island is part of BC.



#4367 57WestHills

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Posted 13 July 2018 - 06:03 AM

The Alberni is one of the most reliable ships in the fleet and logs among the most sailing hours.


The later is true for sure. The Alberni has been pulled from service about a dozen times from this year. They even had to pull up the New West when she was in her out of service periods to cover. It's not in good condition, more generally.

Like many of our ships it's been kept too long. The Howe Sound Queen being retired soon isn't leaving because there is a good replacement plan, it just cannot get insured anymore after sometime in 2019 when its certificates expire!

#4368 Nparker

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Posted 13 July 2018 - 07:25 AM

Apparently, BC Ferries terminals are meant to be the poor man's Disneyland

Improved cycling facilities, more places for pets and more greenspace are on the wish list for a refurbished Swartz Bay ferry terminal. Other ideas suggested are a basketball court, climbing wall, pub and lounge, a small skate park and outdoor entertainment...

http://www.timescolo...iled-1.23367121

Is it just me or is our species getting weirder by the day?



#4369 Mike K.

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Posted 13 July 2018 - 07:29 AM

It would sure be nice if we had some federal help with replacements for ships literally disintegrating.

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#4370 Jackerbie

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Posted 13 July 2018 - 07:32 AM

Apparently, BC Ferries terminals are meant to be the poor man's Disneyland

Is it just me or is our species getting weirder by the day?

 

I always find it strange how, in a single breath, some people can complain about the cost of a ferry crossing and also the lack of extra amenities.


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#4371 lanforod

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Posted 13 July 2018 - 12:33 PM

I'd rather leave the terminal alone and fix it so you never or extremely rarely have to wait more than 1 hour. Then you don't need the amenities.


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#4372 57WestHills

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Posted 14 July 2018 - 10:12 PM

Queen of New West having trouble yet again this weekend with her props.. the same problem that actually did in the Queen of Nanaimo (not suggesting a dramatic end to the ferry here, it was repairable on the Nanaimo just not worth it when the replacement was sitting there). Cancellations today and into mid day tomorrow.

#4373 Bingo

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Posted 15 July 2018 - 12:59 PM

Queen of New West having trouble yet again this weekend with her props.. the same problem that actually did in the Queen of Nanaimo (not suggesting a dramatic end to the ferry here, it was repairable on the Nanaimo just not worth it when the replacement was sitting there). Cancellations today and into mid day tomorrow.

 

Propulsion problems  caused the ferry to hit the dock at Duke Point in 2011.

 

On Dec. 20, 2011, the Coastal Inspiration was travelling about five knots, when it slammed into the terminal, located south of Nanaimo on Vancouver Island.

"The bow door, the starboard side shell, and the rubbing plate of the Coastal Inspiration were damaged, putting it out of service for 23 days.

The terminal sustained damage to the port and starboard berth walls, to pilings and to various electrical fittings, and was out of service for 122 days," the report said.

The TSB found procedures for testing the propulsion control equipment before berthing were not followed, meaning that a malfunction in the controls went undetected until it was too late. 

Investigators also concluded that the bridge crew was not familiar with the controls in an emergency.

Since the accident, BC Ferries has made several changes to its propulsion control systems to provide a warning to bridge crews when the system malfunctions. 

The TSB also noted that BC Ferries has improved its emergency response drills.

http://www.cbc.ca/ne...crash-1.1404240


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#4374 lanforod

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Posted 15 July 2018 - 07:40 PM

^ Whenever I"m on a ferry, I think of how monotonous the job can sometimes get, doing the exact same route day in and day out. Does not surprise me that SOP was not followed.

I hope BCF does random audit inspections of their crew.



#4375 Jason-L

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Posted 16 July 2018 - 06:51 AM

Apparently, BC Ferries terminals are meant to be the poor man's Disneyland

Is it just me or is our species getting weirder by the day?

This would be perfect.  More reasons for people to ignore the announcement to return to their cars in preparation for boarding!



#4376 Citified.ca

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Posted 25 July 2018 - 11:44 AM

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An aerial of Seaspan's commercial freight ferry terminal in North Saanich adjacent to BC Ferries' Swartz Bay ferry terminal (at-right). The Piers Island Compound can be seen top-centre, while Seaspan's freight trailer facility and a Seaspan freight ferry are centred. Seaspan plans to undertake improvements to its North Saanich facility following last year's opening of a $44 million Duke Point terminal south of Nanaimo.

 

Expansion planned for Seaspan's North Saanich freight ferry terminal adjacent to Swartz Bay

https://victoria.cit...-to-swartz-bay/


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