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[On the Level]

Langford is known for smooth sailing on the permit process. There must have been an architect on record. As the coordinating professional, it’s up to them to ensure everything is properly reviewed.

 

Municipal governments will have Civil Engineers on staff, and while they might (or might not) have a Structural Engineer on staff, I can't see them taking responsibility by second guessing every engineers report.  From news reports in this case, the engineer was not authorized to approve/stamp the report.  If there are issues with Langford's approval process, I guess we will find out in the court ruling.   

[spanky123]

Municipal governments will have Civil Engineers on staff, and while they might (or might not) have a Structural Engineer on staff, I can't see them taking responsibility by second guessing every engineers report.  From news reports in this case, the engineer was not authorized to approve/stamp the report.  If there are issues with Langford's approval process, I guess we will find out in the court ruling.   

 

Would they look to see if an engineer reviewed their own work as part of the process? What do other munis do?

 

The fact that Langford is being sues doesn't necessarily mean they have done anything wrong. It is pretty common practice to add everyone to a suit.

[Mike K.]

Langford also moved to secure housing for the tenants of the building.

[rambaldi]

Interesting to read Langford Mayor Stew Young's use of the word "we" when he reportedly said,

 

“It was such a great building when we opened it and then we found the were some structural engineering problems with it...” 

 

 

https://www.iheartra...ding-1.16475698

[On the Level]

 

Interesting to read Langford Mayor Stew Young's use of the word "we" when he reportedly said,

 

“It was such a great building when we opened it and then we found the were some structural engineering problems with it...” 

 

 

https://www.iheartra...ding-1.16475698

 

 

I would expect "we" simply means the city.  The city issued an occupancy permit but then revoked it once issues were identified. 

 

Responsibility for ensuring that the building was engineered correctly is in question.  What portion of responsibility does Engineers and Geoscientists British Columbia, municipalities and the private sector have for the quality of engineering completed for buildings?  Who manages qualifications?  I suspect that is part of what will be discussed in court.

[spanky123]

 

Interesting to read Langford Mayor Stew Young's use of the word "we" when he reportedly said,

 

“It was such a great building when we opened it and then we found the were some structural engineering problems with it...” 

 

 

https://www.iheartra...ding-1.16475698

 

 

Stu has been pretty clear since the day the deficiencies were found that Langford bears no responsibility. I am sure the question will come up in court then as to why they paid hundreds of thousands to relocate tenants. 

[On the Level]

I am sure the question will come up in court then as to why they paid hundreds of thousands to relocate tenants. 

 

Can you imagine if CoV council had the same concern for their residents?  I guess this is why Stu gets voted in again and again.

[spanky123]

Can you imagine if CoV council had the same concern for their residents?  I guess this is why Stu gets voted in again and again.

 

Other than this one group of residents has Langford ever done anything similar in the past? If your house burns down do they rent you a place to live?

[Mike K.]

Well, they are giving out grants for families to buy homes. That’s pretty nice of them.

[spanky123]

Well, they are giving out grants for families to buy homes. That’s pretty nice of them.

 

Only homes from certain developers!

[Mike K.]

It’s open to all developers, though. Whoever can work within the confines of the project will have the opportunity to do so, but this isn’t a program most will want to participate in.

[spanky123]

^ IIRC, the Capital referred to it as a program to help certain developers sell off unattractive units.

[On the Level]

Other than this one group of residents has Langford ever done anything similar in the past? If your house burns down do they rent you a place to live?

I don't know. They do proactive things like their initial COVID response (mixed effectiveness) and they are usually pretty responsive during issues like this one where there are 4 sandbag locations.

[Sparky]

If your house is burning, they will come and put it out for you no charge.

If it is an apartment building they phone the bus company so you can sit and watch out of the rain and then the bus will take you to a Salvation Army rescue centre.

[Mike K.]

^ IIRC, the Capital referred to it as a program to help certain developers sell off unattractive units.

Every condo project currently selling inventory in Langford is sold-out for all intents and purposes. If anyone needs help, it’s the people advising journalists that Langford developers have trouble selling units.

[Sparky]

^ Maybe the journalists are advising themselves.

[Mike K.]

You might not be that far off. Show me a condo that nobody wants to buy in Langford and I’ll do a backflip.

Sooke just sold a $1.1 million condo. A record-breaker for the town.

[spanky123]

^ If condos are flying off of the shelf as fast as they are built then why is Langford playing the lottery windfall for a few select owners? Perhaps this is like $10 a day daycare and family doctor's, if you have an "in" or "buddy" you are golden everyone else pays for it while being told to eat cake.

[Sparky]

^ Don’t get me going on the $10 Daycare scam.

That has to be the cruelest election platform ever.

Imagine pimping a vote out of a new mother that has the hopes and dreams of returning to work at a cost of $200 per month.

……then find out that what they really meant was that they will be all tooled up to deliver that election promise when your child is entering grade 2…… if ever.

[Mike K.]

^ If condos are flying off of the shelf as fast as they are built then why is Langford playing the lottery windfall for a few select owners? Perhaps this is like $10 a day daycare and family doctor's, if you have an "in" or "buddy" you are golden everyone else pays for it while being told to eat cake.

 

Maybe journalists should investigate that for us?