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Victoria City Hall's statue of Sir John A. MacDonald could be on the move


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#421 RFS

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Posted 11 January 2019 - 09:29 AM

Someone gonna send Lisa a card?


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#422 kjf

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Posted 11 January 2019 - 09:40 AM

I sent a Happy J.A.M. Day email to mayor and council
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#423 rmpeers

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Posted 11 January 2019 - 09:52 AM

Perhaps, since Indigenous members of the family have said they would like the statue recontextualized rather than hidden, the mayor could take this opportunity to announce that statue's new location. Yes, she got the media hype for her campaign launch and achieved her goal of upsetting a lot of people. And the cynical, exploitive gimmick worked. Victoria voters love her Trump-style approach. We get it. But now maybe lets bring him back in a way that is respectful to everyone.

#424 Nparker

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Posted 11 January 2019 - 10:19 AM

...Victoria voters love her Trump-style approach...

56% of Victoria voters did not like her approach.



#425 nagel

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Posted 11 January 2019 - 12:51 PM

Interesting that the people who like to ***** and moan about the CoV not sticking in their lane are enjoying a useless proclamation by a previous federal government when they could have focused that time on things that mattered.



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Posted 11 January 2019 - 12:52 PM

Interesting that the people who like to ***** and moan about the CoV not sticking in their lane are enjoying a useless proclamation by a previous federal government when they could have focused that time on things that mattered.

 

Actually national 'day's' and recognition of the nation's founder are well within the purview of the federal government.  Nice try 



#427 nagel

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Posted 11 January 2019 - 12:59 PM

Actually national 'day's' and recognition of the nation's founder are well within the purview of the federal government.  Nice try 

And they do about as much as when the city sends letters to oil companies.  It's all a waste of time.



#428 Nparker

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Posted 11 January 2019 - 02:01 PM

And they do about as much as when the city sends letters to oil companies.  It's all a waste of time.

Who's time is wasted by having a day dedicated to something?



#429 nagel

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Posted 11 January 2019 - 02:14 PM

Who's time is wasted by having a day dedicated to something?

Staff, leg clerks, drafters.  People who have better things to do like laws that actually affect people.



#430 Nparker

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Posted 11 January 2019 - 02:15 PM

....People who have better things to do like laws that actually affect people.

You mean things like selecting civic Poet Laureates?


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Posted 11 January 2019 - 02:19 PM

Staff, leg clerks, drafters. People who have better things to do like laws that actually affect people.


So then city proclamations should stop in their entirety as well if it is poor form for the Feds to do so

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#432 rjag

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Posted 11 January 2019 - 03:38 PM

Staff, leg clerks, drafters.  People who have better things to do like laws that actually affect people.

 

hahahahahaha omg funniest thing I've read all day!!!! 


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#433 LJ

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Posted 13 January 2019 - 08:05 PM

The Americans have found themselves in a bit of a quandary....

 

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Life's a journey......so roll down the window and enjoy the breeze.

#434 Nparker

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Posted 23 January 2019 - 08:37 AM

Her Worseship is as a manipulative politician as there ever has been.

...a redacted email from Helps to city family members, released as part of a freedom of information request made by the Times Colonist in August, shows that as far back as November 2017 — nine months earlier — the decision to ask council to remove the statue had already been made...

 

https://www.timescol...king-1.23609051

She played council and the citizens of the CoV like a finely tuned instrument. How anyone in good conscience could have voted to give this woman a second term as mayor is beyond me.


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#435 rmpeers

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Posted 23 January 2019 - 09:45 AM

Her Worseship is as a manipulative politician as there ever has been.
She played council and the citizens of the CoV like a finely tuned instrument. How anyone in good conscience could have voted to give this woman a second term as mayor is beyond me.


I don't know if the thousands of people who voted for her were spectacularly ill-informed, lacking in moral character, enjoy being lied to, or a combination of those factors, but here we are. It's not about politics; it about misleading voters again and again and again. And like Trump, she clearly doesn't care. Enough voters took their ignorance to the pools to secure her a 2nd term. Sadly, the Trump approach works just as well here as in the US. Ignorance is king in Victoria.
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#436 Mike K.

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Posted 23 January 2019 - 09:59 AM

Remind us. What did she say the time span was originally when the issue of deciding to remove the statue was made?

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#437 spanky123

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Posted 23 January 2019 - 10:00 AM

Remind us. What did she say the time span was originally when the issue of deciding to remove the statue was made?

 

I believe that Helps said it had been discussed for a while, she just left out the part about it only being discussed within her "family" group.



#438 Mike K.

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Posted 23 January 2019 - 10:02 AM

Ah, ok.

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Posted 23 January 2019 - 10:19 AM

I think that there are two broader issues at stake here. Despite knowing about the JAM plans for months, neither Alto nor Thorton-Joe said anything to their fellow Councillors. Talk about screwing your friends. To make things even worse, after the move was announced, they said nothing and let their fellow Councillors take the heat. If I were Ben or Jeremy, I would have a chat with the two ladies and mention that none of their motions over the next 3 years will be passed unless they start acting as a member of the team.

 

Reading this article, some of the recent work by Focus and talking with friends of mine who are part of various community groups, there seems to be a real lack of record keeping on sensitive issues at City Hall. More and more often, people making requests from City Hall are not getting redacted documents, they are getting nothing at all and being told that no records exist. This lack of accountability is disturbing and lends credence to the argument that the Mayor's CoS is really just being put in place to create another barrier to access.


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#440 mbjj

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Posted 23 January 2019 - 02:19 PM

Lisa the Liar strikes again.


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