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#1 sebberry

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Posted 13 June 2017 - 07:26 PM

Poor England can't catch a break these days :(

 


A huge fire has engulfed a tower block in Latimer Road, west London, with eyewitnesses claiming people are trapped in their homes.

 

The fire at Grenfell Tower on the Lancaster West Estate was reported at 01:16 BST and about 200 firefighters are tackling the blaze.

The Met Police said people were being treated for "a range of injuries".

The BBC's Andy Moore said the whole tower block was alight and there are fears the building might collapse.

 

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http://www.bbc.com/n...london-40269625


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#2 Rob Randall

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Posted 13 June 2017 - 08:51 PM

There have been fire fears for years.

2013:

It just so happens that one of our members chaired the EMB Property Management Committee in 2004 when that committee received information that the Grenfell Tower emergency lighting system was in very poor condition. Two thirds of the battery packs were completely dead, and the entire system would have failed in an emergency. The committee then fought a protracted battle with the TMO for more than a year, during which time the TMO repeatedly denied that there was a problem, or any negligence with regard to inspection and testing of the system. Eventually the EMB committee succeeded in badgering the TMO into ordering an independent investigation. This was conducted by Peter West of Capita Symonds. His report, when it was published in May 2005, was a shocking indictement of TMO mal-administration and failure of oversight, and of the electrical contractors whose duty it had been to inspect and test the Lancaster West emergency lighting system.

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#3 sebberry

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Posted 13 June 2017 - 09:48 PM

And a twitter post today with a recording of a resident phoning into a radio station claiming the fire alarms weren't working.  He was woken up by the screams of people yelling "don't jump".


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#4 Rob Randall

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Posted 13 June 2017 - 10:19 PM

Apparently the building has a stay put fire policy--don't leave your suite unless you are in imminent danger.

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Posted 13 June 2017 - 10:23 PM

I don't know if that's a policy, per se, but it's advice that was given out.


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Posted 14 June 2017 - 06:02 AM


The first indication of the terrible human cost was announced shortly after midday. The Metropolitan police confirmed six fatalities but stressed “these are very early stages and we do expect that figure to rise”. In addition, 74 people were being treated in London hospitals, 20 of them said to be in critical care.

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Posted 14 June 2017 - 08:52 AM

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Posted 14 June 2017 - 09:12 AM

A woman dropped her baby from the 10th floor, which was then caught by a member of the public.



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Posted 14 June 2017 - 10:26 AM

How is a fire like this even possible in a modern high-rise?

 

Assuming British building standards are similar to ours the idea in a concrete highrise is that fires should be contained within one unit not jumping from unit to unit and engulfing the whole building.



#10 Nparker

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Posted 14 June 2017 - 10:35 AM

How is a fire like this even possible in a modern high-rise?...

That's what I keep wondering as well. Surely code must have required some sort of fire suppression system?



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Posted 14 June 2017 - 10:43 AM

How is a fire like this even possible in a modern high-rise?

 

Assuming British building standards are similar to ours the idea in a concrete highrise is that fires should be contained within one unit not jumping from unit to unit and engulfing the whole building.

British building standards are really low, especially when it's "affordable housing" towers.  British construction, specially electrical matters, are terrifying. 


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#12 Rob Randall

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Posted 14 June 2017 - 11:03 AM

Everything surrounds a central core. If there's a fire there's no alternate escape. 

 

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#13 lanforod

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Posted 14 June 2017 - 11:06 AM

Isn't that how most high rises are built these days, though?



#14 VicHockeyFan

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Posted 14 June 2017 - 11:23 AM

Isn't that how most high rises are built these days, though?

 

The stairwells are often back to back, but they have significant fire-block between the two..


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#15 Mike K.

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Posted 14 June 2017 - 01:10 PM

How is a fire like this even possible in a modern high-rise?

 

Assuming British building standards are similar to ours the idea in a concrete highrise is that fires should be contained within one unit not jumping from unit to unit and engulfing the whole building.

 

The building was built in 1974. The maintenance and fire suppression technology within the building was actually poorly maintained even in recent years following a building upgrade. In some cases it was simply not maintained. The rest is history.


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