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Victoria Press Building
Uses: office, commercial
Address: 2621 Douglas Street
Municipality: Victoria
Region: Urban core
Storeys: 4
The Victoria Press Building is a redevelopment of the Times Colonist Building along the 2600-block of Douglas ... (view full profile)
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#61 Jackerbie

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Posted 24 January 2018 - 10:35 AM

If somewhat less dramatic.

 

I was gonna say....

 

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Posted 24 January 2018 - 11:40 AM

Thank you for the heads-up, Kapten! Good catch on the rendering release.

 

Plans to transform Times Colonist complex include modern office, social and residential uses

 
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#63 Nparker

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Posted 24 January 2018 - 11:45 AM

It's certainly ambitious. Hopefully the vision can be realized.



#64 Nparker

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Posted 24 January 2018 - 11:51 AM

This seems like an unattainable goal.

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#65 Kapten Kapsell

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Posted 25 January 2018 - 06:33 AM

David Obee comments on the redevelopment of his newspaper’s site, denies rumours or closing, and praises citified.ca for its commitment to accuracy: http://www.timescolo...come-1.23154299
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#66 VicHockeyFan

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Posted 25 January 2018 - 06:59 AM

The good news for those following is we only have about 12 months to find out who is right.

The Glacier Media executive I spoke with pointed directly at the $1600/wk salaries the TC pays to key positions (reporters, pressman, mailroom workers. ad salespeople - managers make more in each department) as why it must change or close.

Edited by VicHockeyFan, 25 January 2018 - 07:01 AM.

<p><span style="font-size:12px;"><em><span style="color:rgb(40,40,40);font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">"I don’t need a middle person in my pizza slice transaction" <strong>- zoomer, April 17, 2018</strong></span></em></span>

#67 sdwright.vic

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Posted 25 January 2018 - 07:07 AM

Okay, we do have 12 months, but did you block him from commenting?
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#68 VicHockeyFan

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Posted 25 January 2018 - 07:11 AM

Okay, we do have 12 months, but did you block him from commenting?

His post was first auto blocked by our settings. Then in subsequent direct discussions with him, we asked him not to come to our network of Facebook pages and make comments, just as we do not go to our competitors, including theirs, and make posts. He refused that agreement. So we blocked him.

You can not allow Pepsi to comment on the Coke pages.

I moderate my pages the way I see fit. When Obee comes on mine and calls me a liar, I object.

You will notice than in print this morning he does not dare name me or my sites by name, since he’s not sure what’s what and does not want to invite a lawsuit.

He’s being lead down n the path by his employer, and he knows it.

Edited by VicHockeyFan, 25 January 2018 - 07:17 AM.

<p><span style="font-size:12px;"><em><span style="color:rgb(40,40,40);font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">"I don’t need a middle person in my pizza slice transaction" <strong>- zoomer, April 17, 2018</strong></span></em></span>

#69 sdwright.vic

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Posted 25 January 2018 - 07:16 AM

Uh... what abou to refute a claim?

Heck, Wendy's trashes their competition all the time on Twitter.

Sorry, but the claims made do seem to be open to comment by a competitor.
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#70 VicHockeyFan

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Posted 25 January 2018 - 07:20 AM

They can make their claims and refutes in their own turf, not in the ones I spend 16 hours a day maintaining.

There are over 10,000 Facebook pages in Victoria, go post on them.

I’m not gonna bother with all this now, but I stand by it, it’s all two days old already.

I’m on to more crimes here in my basement,

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<p><span style="font-size:12px;"><em><span style="color:rgb(40,40,40);font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">"I don’t need a middle person in my pizza slice transaction" <strong>- zoomer, April 17, 2018</strong></span></em></span>

#71 sdwright.vic

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Posted 25 January 2018 - 07:23 AM

Sorry, but my opinion only, he didn't need to name you. All those comments you don't read have enough people naming you. So your right, why open up the Time Colonist to a law suite when the piblic is doing the naming for you?
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#72 VicHockeyFan

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Posted 25 January 2018 - 07:31 AM

Sorry, but my opinion only, he didn't need to name you. All those comments you don't read have enough people naming you. So your right, why open up the Time Colonist to a law suite when the piblic is doing the naming for you?

 

If you are writing a NEWS article, normally you'd want to name the subject of your news.  Problem is, he does not know what happened the other night, he was not there.  My meeting with the Glacier exec was not planned, it was a fluke, we met at a bar.

 

Look, go read my 50,000 posts here over ten years and see how many times I said X but it ended up being Y.  That I blatantly lied about an observation.  I don't do it.  I'm not doing it in this case.

 

I get that every time their sales force knocks on a door, the client says they are going to or are doing "online" advertising instead.  Yes, us online guys are a big part of their unwinding, so I get the bitterness.  Our revenues are growing, theirs is shrinking.  

 

But back to Obee, he can not possibly know what conversation I had on Monday night, he was not there.  I was.  With a guy from his head office in Vancouver.


Edited by VicHockeyFan, 25 January 2018 - 07:51 AM.

<p><span style="font-size:12px;"><em><span style="color:rgb(40,40,40);font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">"I don’t need a middle person in my pizza slice transaction" <strong>- zoomer, April 17, 2018</strong></span></em></span>

#73 VicHockeyFan

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Posted 25 January 2018 - 07:34 AM

Sorry, but my opinion only, he didn't need to name you. All those comments you don't read have enough people naming you. So your right, why open up the Time Colonist to a law suite when the piblic is doing the naming for you?

 

They have 25,000 FB fans, I have over 300,000.  You'd think they would also want to name me on the face of the 39,000 print copies they printed today.  They would not dare.


<p><span style="font-size:12px;"><em><span style="color:rgb(40,40,40);font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">"I don’t need a middle person in my pizza slice transaction" <strong>- zoomer, April 17, 2018</strong></span></em></span>

#74 Kapten Kapsell

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Posted 16 February 2018 - 08:32 AM

Community Meeting Notice

Monday, February 19th, at the Burnside Gorge Community Centre, 471 Cecelia Rd. Doors open at 5:45pm, the meeting will start at 6pm.

On the agenda:

• 6pm - The Press Building – The proposal for the former Times Colonist building is a renovation of the existing building to include a residential tower

and a commercial/ restaurant space.



#75 VicHockeyFan

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Posted 18 February 2018 - 08:29 AM

Those plans include keeping the Times Colonist where it is.

 

Times Colonist editor-in-chief Dave Obee said the paper will be there long-term. “The Times Colonist has a long-term deal to be the anchor tenant in this building. It will continue to be home to our editorial, advertising, circulation, business and IT departments for the foreseeable future,” he said.

 

“We are looking at options for the location of our production departments. When the building opened almost a half century ago, these departments had to be in the same building, but that is not the case now. Pages can be sent to the press electronically,” Obee said. “It makes sense to have the bulk of our operations close to downtown, but it would be better to print the paper in a spot better suited to the distribution of each edition.”

 

Obee said it’s time to embrace change. “It is time for a full renewal. Our existing work space is rooted in the past, and our new work space will be more open and inviting, and use the latest thinking in office design,” he said. “A newspaper needs to change with the times. Transforming the building will help us to do that.”

 

 

So at least now the TC is admitting their printing press will no longer be at 2621 Douglas St.  

 

That was never going to work, as I said before.  You can not have residential sharing the building with a big press running from 11pm to 3am daily.

 

http://www.timescolo...town-1.23176103

 

It makes sense to have the bulk of our operations close to downtown, but it would be better to print the paper in a spot better suited to the distribution of each edition

 

 

Although that does not make all the much sense.  I'm sure if you laid a heatmap of TC distribution over the city, the downtown core and Oak Bay, south Fairfield and James Bay would be the hottest.

 

Now, the printing may well be better-suited to be contracted out to a non-union outfit.  You just need to buy out the current pressmen and mailers (the crew that inserts flyers and bundles the papers, see them loaded onto trucks).

 

 

I think it's yet to be seen how this all turns out.  Parking is not all that plentiful around there, and you will need lots if you have a 200-person brew-pub or whatever is in their plans.  And this developer has a bit of a poor track record with his Dominion Rocket project, a much less ambitious plan, that ended with the sale of the whole thing and none of the promised amenities (lobby coffee shop, "Dominion Commons" in the parking lot etc.).


Edited by VicHockeyFan, 18 February 2018 - 08:39 AM.

<p><span style="font-size:12px;"><em><span style="color:rgb(40,40,40);font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">"I don’t need a middle person in my pizza slice transaction" <strong>- zoomer, April 17, 2018</strong></span></em></span>

#76 Kapten Kapsell

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Posted 28 February 2018 - 09:37 AM

This project has received unanimous support from the BGNA Land Use Committee and residents who attended the meeting were unanimously in favour (3 individuals present abstained from voting due to being non-residents).  There is general enthusiasm for the proposal and some minor recommendations to improve it (i.e. including some larger units in the residential mix).

See http://www.burnsideg... 2018.02.22.pdf .


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#77 Mike K.

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Posted 28 February 2018 - 12:00 PM

Do we know how large the residential component will be?

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#78 Kapten Kapsell

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Posted 28 February 2018 - 12:09 PM

I have not seen detailed on the website yet, but I assume that some of this was presented to BGCA...
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#79 Jackerbie

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Posted 28 February 2018 - 12:36 PM

Do we know how large the residential component will be?

 

How large is the existing building? The letter states that the residential component is 12 storeys, and the project would be a 2.5 FSR


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#80 tjv

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Posted 24 May 2018 - 10:21 AM

Looks like some preliminary work will start this summer.  Farmer is the construction manager


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