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#21 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 04 March 2019 - 03:44 AM

 

it's still going pretty strong though 16 weeks in.  teargas and water cannon used again this weekend.



#22 Matt R.

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Posted 04 March 2019 - 07:40 AM

Just sent the daughter off to France for two weeks this morning, we had to cover what to do if you come across a weekend protest!

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#23 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 10 March 2019 - 02:18 PM

—The week ahead will be one of the most dramatic in British politics in decades. A sequence of parliamentary votes will decide the future of the British economy—or perhaps plunge it into chaos.



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i’m not sure putting this off will help. the only thing that will solve this is being right up against a firm wall.

#24 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 11 March 2019 - 06:19 PM

Theresa May says she has secured "legally binding" changes to her Brexit deal, a day ahead of MPs voting on it.

But European Commission President Jean-Claude Juncker warned if the deal was voted down there was "no third chance".



https://www.bbc.com/...litics-47533164

big vote tomorrow.

#25 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 12 March 2019 - 06:24 AM

today's vote will go down in flames.

 

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Posted 12 March 2019 - 11:31 AM

242 to 391.  Dfeated by 149 votes.


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#27 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 12 March 2019 - 12:05 PM

Here's the full breakdown of how MPs voted tonight:

 

For:

  • Conservatives: 235
  • Labour: 3
  • Independent: 4

Against:

  • Conservative: 75
  • Labour: 238
  • Scottish National Party: 35
  • Liberal Democrats: 11
  • Democratic Unionist Party: 10
  • Plaid Cymru: 4
  • Independent: 17
  • Green Party: 1

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#28 Mike K.

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Posted 12 March 2019 - 12:13 PM

Anyone care to tell us what the ramifications are now that it’s been defeated?

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#29 lanforod

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Posted 12 March 2019 - 12:25 PM

Anyone care to tell us what the ramifications are now that it’s been defeated?

 

They'll vote tomorrow on whether to do a brexit without a deal. If that fails, then they'll do a vote on extending the March 29 deadline (to end of June). If that fails, who knows.


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#30 RFS

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Posted 12 March 2019 - 12:26 PM

Anyone care to tell us what the ramifications are now that it’s been defeated?

 

It means there will be full on, no-deal Brexit on March 29, unless they cowardly vote to delay it further, or vote for second referendum (riots)


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#31 lanforod

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Posted 12 March 2019 - 12:27 PM

SNC-Lavilin gonna get the contract to build the border crossing in Ireland? 



#32 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 12 March 2019 - 12:28 PM

Anyone care to tell us what the ramifications are now that it’s been defeated?

 

honestly the ireland issue seems to be the most problematic.  the uk could just leave with no deal at deadline then scramble to make other deals.   but that big 'ol land border with no checkpoints is very problematic.  at least for real hard goods.


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#33 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 12 March 2019 - 12:29 PM

They'll vote tomorrow on whether to do a brexit without a deal. If that fails, then they'll do a vote on extending the March 29 deadline (to end of June). If that fails, who knows.

 

i think that's the problem. each of these votes might fail.  



#34 RFS

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Posted 12 March 2019 - 12:30 PM

 If that fails, then they'll do a vote on extending the March 29 deadline (to end of June)

 

EU has to approve extension and they had said today's vote was the last chance 



#35 lanforod

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Posted 12 March 2019 - 12:31 PM

^ yes, i could see the EU just saying, forget it, you're out on March 29. Don't the the door hit you on the arse.


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#36 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 12 March 2019 - 12:32 PM

EU has to approve extension and they had said today's vote was the last chance 

 

i still think something might give as they head towards march 29. on one side or the other.



#37 RFS

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Posted 12 March 2019 - 12:32 PM

^ yes, i could see the EU just saying, forget it, you're out on March 29. Don't the the door hit you on the arse.

 

Yep EU can enjoy their failed welfare states, no-go zones, and millions of illegal "refugees" on their own 



#38 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 12 March 2019 - 12:34 PM

^ yes, i could see the EU just saying, forget it, you're out on March 29. Don't the the door hit you on the arse.

 

and there is some sentiment to do that.  to show the other members how bad it is to try to leave.  on the other hand the uk is no small power and if they go and they thrive then other members will say hey they worked out fine maybe we can quit too.



#39 Mike K.

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Posted 12 March 2019 - 01:02 PM

Why wouldn’t the world’s fifth largest economy not thrive? The EU needs the UK more than the UK needs the EU.

Next to go are the Visegrad nations if the EU continues to enforce its will upon them to the degree that it is.

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#40 AllseeingEye

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Posted 12 March 2019 - 05:09 PM

Why wouldn’t the world’s fifth largest economy not thrive? The EU needs the UK more than the UK needs the EU.

Next to go are the Visegrad nations if the EU continues to enforce its will upon them to the degree that it is.

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