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#5761 Nparker

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Posted 17 April 2016 - 03:52 PM

Police don't usually catch the smart ones...

Perhaps they can't afford to spend that much time outside the Legislature.


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#5762 LJ

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Posted 17 April 2016 - 07:30 PM

HB, on 17 Apr 2016 - 10:13 AM, said:

that is so true. The whoa is me card has been played.

 

Yeah, he just wouldn't stop would he.


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#5763 aastra

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Posted 17 April 2016 - 09:48 PM

Straight from the horse's mouth? The police must have been chomping at the bit to catch this guy.


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#5764 VicHockeyFan

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Posted 19 April 2016 - 07:40 PM

Police said that over the past several weeks large posters have been put up on Robinson Road warning about drug users and thieves at the cabin where the incident happened. It is too early to link the posters to the Molotov cocktails, police said.

 

Sooke RCMP Staff Sgt. Jeff McArthur said the attack on the cabin could be a case of vigilantism.

 

“We’re not sure at this point what the motivation is for this, if it’s motivated by vigilantes or something else,” he said. “We know who it’s targeted against, and there has been some police attention to that one residence.”

 

He said charges related to throwing Molotov cocktails are much more serious than those allegedly committed by people living in the cabin.

 

“Arson with disregard for human life, which is what this is, carries a maximum penalty of life imprisonment.”

 

He said those involved in the attack have ended up diverting police attention away from whatever might be happening at the cabin, and putting it on themselves.

 

“Violence and vigilante activity will not be tolerated,” McArthur said. “The Sooke RCMP will actively investigate and charge anyone who is responsible for these crimes.”

 

- See more at: http://www.timescolo...h.yNaKWRXV.dpuf

 

 

He said those involved in the attack have ended up diverting police attention away from whatever might be happening at the cabin, and putting it on themselves.

 

 

Hmmmmm, that's pretty hard to believe that would divert attention away.


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Posted 19 April 2016 - 10:42 PM

- See more at: http://www.timescolo...h.yNaKWRXV.dpuf

 

 

 

Hmmmmm, that's pretty hard to believe that would divert attention away.

 

Your lack of faith is disturbing. I would not be surprised or offended if the cops decide that catching a dedicated drug user or three is going to take a back seat to catching a reckless killer.


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#5766 VicHockeyFan

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Posted 19 April 2016 - 10:45 PM

Nobody killed anybody. There is no killer.
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#5767 3isenough

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Posted 20 April 2016 - 12:11 PM

Mother has been charged with murder today in relation to this story from last year 😕

http://vancouverisla...toria-1.2566746

#5768 aastra

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Posted 20 April 2016 - 12:22 PM

 

He said those involved in the attack have ended up diverting police attention away from whatever might be happening at the cabin, and putting it on themselves.

 

The entire notion of "diverting attention away" is pure politics and comes across as a lame excuse for ongoing inaction on their part. In reality the second event would only focus more attention to what's been going on there.

 

Do we really believe that police attention could be diverted from one crime simply because another crimes occurs in the vicinity? I sure hope not because that would effectively be an admission of incompetence. How easy would it be to manipulate police investigations if that were true?

 

I know some people like this sort of political BS but for the rest of us it just comes off as a raised middle finger.


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Posted 20 April 2016 - 12:25 PM

Nobody killed anybody. There is no killer.

Note that I used the word reckless, and the staff sergeant said "with disregard for human life". Nobody died, but that was hardly the intent. You throw a molotov at a building with people in it, you have murder in your heart. Burning buildings tend to kill their occupants, and quickly.


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#5770 Greg

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Posted 20 April 2016 - 03:13 PM

Note that I used the word reckless, and the staff sergeant said "with disregard for human life". Nobody died, but that was hardly the intent. You throw a molotov at a building with people in it, you have murder in your heart. Burning buildings tend to kill their occupants, and quickly.

Also true when they burn down from the meth lab exploding. I'd suggest that the police might find sufficient capacity to address both sets of crimes.  :)



#5771 Bingo

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Posted 20 April 2016 - 04:09 PM

The Vic West police chase photo reminder at the top of this page seems a bit out of place now.



#5772 VicHockeyFan

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Posted 20 April 2016 - 04:32 PM

Mother has been charged with murder today in relation to this story from last year

http://vancouverisla...toria-1.2566746

 

 

CTV News has confirmed the identity of a Victoria mother charged with the first-degree murder of her 18-month-old daughter. Kaela Mehl remains in custody and will make her next court appearance May 18. 

 


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#5773 Nparker

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Posted 20 April 2016 - 04:47 PM

WIll first degree murder be hard to prove?



#5774 VicHockeyFan

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Posted 20 April 2016 - 04:58 PM

WIll first degree murder be hard to prove?

 

Yes.  Although the delay between the death and the charge might mean that they used other methods in the interim to gain intelligence.  ie. wire taps, recordings, undercover operatives.  Heck, maybe even Mr. Big.

 

From the outside it looks like a murder-suicide attempt that failed on one half.  That's pre-mediated.  And Post-partum psychosis is not usually found so far out (18 months).  At least that's what Google told me.


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#5775 David Bratzer

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Posted 21 April 2016 - 01:48 PM

Today the BC Human Rights Tribunal issued its decision in my case: Bratzer v. Victoria Police Department (No. 3).
 
The decision is a victory for employee rights in British Columbia. Here is a brief summary of key points:
 
• The Tribunal determined that employers have a duty to accommodate the political beliefs of employees (paragraph 323).
 
• The Tribunal recognized that the protection offered by the Code for political belief includes not only the belief itself but also the manner of expression (paragraphs 274 and 276).
 
• The Tribunal ruled that employers cannot force their employees to ask for permission in advance of expressing their political beliefs (paragraph 401).
 
• The Tribunal recognized the right of police officers to participate in political advocacy and in the affairs of a political party (paragraphs 321 and 386).
 
• The Tribunal found the actions of Chief Jamie Graham (retired) were motivated by his antipathy toward “left wingers” (paragraphs 122, 123, 218, 220, 223, 224, 349, 320, 350, 351, 394 and 424).
 
• VicPD has been ordered to pay $20,000 for injury to dignity, the highest ever award for a political belief case in Canada (paragraphs 437 and 438).
 
It’s been a long road. Thank you to my family, colleagues and friends for all their support. I enjoy Vibrant Victoria and I'm looking forward to participating more now.

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#5776 Mike K.

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Posted 21 April 2016 - 02:27 PM

David, congratulations on winning your case. You fought for what was right.


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#5777 lanforod

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Posted 21 April 2016 - 02:31 PM

It's a win for democracy.


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#5778 Mike K.

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Posted 21 April 2016 - 02:38 PM

PS, the link doesn't seem to work.


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#5779 sebberry

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Posted 21 April 2016 - 03:27 PM

Congrats, David!


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#5780 Mr_E_Squirrel

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Posted 21 April 2016 - 03:48 PM

http://www.bchrt.bc....16_BCHRT_50.pdf

 

PS, the link doesn't seem to work.



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