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[Greg]

I can’t understand the opinion that crime is no issue downtown.

Two, not zero, not one, but TWO of our members on VV were assaulted by the man who he went on a rampage in downtown Victoria. The odds of that are incredibly small and yet here we are.

 

There's significant space between "crime is no issue downtown" and "downtown is a hellhole." The former is untrue, but the latter is simply detached from reality.

[Mike K.]

Oh for sure, I agree with you wholeheartedly.

[sebberry]

Someone smashed the windows at Frankie's Modern Diner and Burger King on Government Street around 1:00 this morning.

[Nparker]

Someone smashed the windows at Frankie's Modern Diner and Burger King on Government Street around 1:00 this morning.

Check for maple shake residue.

[todd]

Sure it wasn't a Piña Colada?

[Cassidy]

Someone smashed the windows at Frankie's Modern Diner and Burger King on Government Street around 1:00 this morning.

Probably cost at least $2000.00 to $5000.00 to repair.

 

COV Mayor, Council, and VIcPD couldn't care less.

[FawltyVic]

After 23 years working in the downtown core, I would have to agree it is getting worse. When a tourist from Vancouver comments that our downtown scares her, you start to wonder if things are bad.

Edited by FawltyVic, 04 June 2018 - 06:51 AM.

[spanky123]

Probably cost at least $2000.00 to $5000.00 to repair.

 

COV Mayor, Council, and VIcPD couldn't care less.

 

And the businesses won't be making insurance claims as if they do then their premiums will skyrocket or they will be denied insurance when it comes up for renewal.

[Cassidy]

And the businesses won't be making insurance claims as if they do then their premiums will skyrocket or they will be denied insurance when it comes up for renewal.

Business property insurance in the downtown core is expensive. 

If most downtown businesses are similar to my own, they keep their premiums affordable by choosing the property damage deduction to be between $5000,00 and $10,000.00 ... and simply hoping for the best.

 

All this really means is most downtown property damage (except the most egregious) is paid "straight out of the till", as the insurance deduction is almost always more than the cost to repair the damage.

Add in spanky123's note above, and you realize that the property damage that occurs all over the downtown core every night is essentially a direct drain on a small businesses daily cash flow.

 

Council doesn't care.

VicPD doesn't care.

The insurance company isn't involved.

 

It's all on the small business owner, many of whom only gross between $400.00 and $800.00 per day (and some less than that).

[Awaiting Juno]

Business property insurance in the downtown core is expensive. 

If most downtown businesses are similar to my own, they keep their premiums affordable by choosing the property damage deduction to be between $5000,00 and $10,000.00 ... and simply hoping for the best.

 

All this really means is most downtown property damage (except the most egregious) is paid "straight out of the till", as the insurance deduction is almost always more than the cost to repair the damage.

Add in spanky123's note above, and you realize that the property damage that occurs all over the downtown core every night is essentially a direct drain on a small businesses daily cash flow.

 

Council doesn't care.

VicPD doesn't care.

The insurance company isn't involved.

 

It's all on the small business owner, many of whom only gross between $400.00 and $800.00 per day (and some less than that).

 

And knowing this, partly explains why business vacancy in the downtown core can become a direct result of crime.  If there are less risky places to do business that will yield as much business, when the lease comes up, the business moves.  When businesses move, the property is vacant and is more prone to loitering - and neighbouring businesses are exposed to more risk.  Add to it the lack of convenient (and safe) ways to get to and from downtown and it becomes a bit of cycle where downtown loses the economic vibrancy and the feeling of safety it once had.  

[FawltyVic]

At 10:24 this morning I overheard a Victoria City police officer say there was a "serious incident" unfolding and that officers were being pulled from their duties. I believe he said Beacon Hill. Does anyone know what was going on?

[Mike K.]

Yes, there was an incident described by police as a male suffering a "mental health crisis" on Dallas Road at Beacon Hill Park.

[Rob Randall]

1983: "PUNKS 'GROSSING OUT' VICTORIA"

 

(scroll down)

 

Those punk kids are now around 50.

[mbjj]

I think something was going on near the tall totem pole, but no idea what.

[Bingo]

I think something was going on near the tall totem pole, but no idea what.

 

Pole dancing?

[manuel]

Well, our friend Paul Seal seems to have lost his profile on victoria's most wanted page.

In other news, Gary was spotted with a new camera.

[AllseeingEye]

1983: "PUNKS 'GROSSING OUT' VICTORIA"

 

(scroll down)

 

Those punk kids are now around 50.

Yeah and Sgt Doug Potentier is long retired from VicPD having failed to get the nod as Chief a few years ago, lol. Had to double take to ascertain the date of that article....

[martini]

Disappearance of Paul Seal being treated as missing person case, police say

Police say Seal made comments that made officers concerned for his well-being, and they are treating his disappearance as a missing person case.

 

http://www.timescolo...-say-1.23327581

[sdwright.vic]

This is getting a little out of hand...

[todd]

This is getting a little out of hand...

 

Paul Seal: "I just checked the Strath, he's not there. Frank Elsner was there though, drinking with Lisa Helps. Odd."

 

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