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[Mike K.]

Surely there's more to the story.

 

Man, Woman Arrested After Gunpoint Robbery

Victoria, BC – A Victoria man and woman were arrested and have appeared in court on charges stemming from a robbery with a firearm and an assault in the 400-block of Swift Street.

 

On June 16th, Patrol officers were called to a multi-unit residential facility in the 400-block of Swift Street for a report of a robbery. Investigators learned that two suspects, a man and a woman, had attended a suite in the facility early that morning. While there, they had robbed a resident while brandishing a handgun. The female victim was also assaulted during the robbery, resulting in non-life threatening injuries.  The suspects fled the scene but were later located and arrested by Patrol officers.

 

VicPD Major Crime Unit investigators continue to investigate the incident and have recommended multiple robbery and firearms related charges.

[aastra]

 

Surely there's more to the story.

 

For example, crime involving firearms used to be a big deal in Canada. But now it isn't.

[Mike K.]

So, are we referring to Mermaid Wharf, or the former Streetlink complex? Calling Mermaid Wharf a “facility” would be odd.

[A Girl is No one]

Isn’t there cool aid housing in that block? That would be considered a “facility”.

[Mike K.]

Not sure who runs it, but that would be the former Streetlink building.

[Nparker]

...Following completion of Rock Bay Landing, CitySpaces managed the conversion of the Streetlink Shelter to supportive housing, becoming part of the existing Swift House. Both Rock Bay landing and Swift House are operated by the Victoria Cool Aid Society, a non-profit society playing a key contribution to the goal to ending homelessness in the Victoria region...

https://www.cityspac...398864746093750

 

Swift House affords some nice views on the upper floors. It was Cool Aid’s very first apartment building, opened in 1991, and the first supportive housing in the Province. The social room on the ground floor (a feature of most Cool Aid apartment buildings) is well enjoyed by the tenants and includes a donated piano and billiard table plus food serving amenities. A variety of apartment sizes allows some couples to live here.

https://coolaid.org/...ortive-housing/

 

[pennymurphy2000]

It simply can't be a Cool Aid building as those facilities are filled with good neighbours remember? 

[Victoria Watcher]

Woman arrested in Sidney for shoplifting on Beacon Avenue

Woman faces two counts of theft, released on condition not to appear in Sidney

 

https://www.vicnews....-beacon-avenue/

[aastra]

 

Harding said the suspect was not resident of Sidney. Police released her with the condition to stay out of Sidney.

 

Many questions. How do they determine you aren't a resident, how do they make you leave, what do they do if you return, and why doesn't Vic PD try doing all of the above?

[Victoria Watcher]

Many questions. How do they determine you aren't a resident, how do they make you leave, what do they do if you return, and why doesn't Vic PD try doing all of the above?

 

you are going to need to show them ID or come up with some way of proving who you are.  especially before they release you they will want to be sure.  you might be able to lie about your place of residence if that matches their records or the ID you produce.

 

they make you sign the promise to appear with the conditions noted including leaving sidney.  if you refuse to sign it or accept the terms or leave they hold you for court.

 

if you return you are in some type of violation and they arrest you and take you to court to see a judge.

 

vicpd could probably try it.  but even when vicpd used to "red zone" people there were still exceptions.  barring people from the commercial centre of the city and administrative centre of the province might prove be problematic enforcing the ban or for judges to agree with it.  

Edited by Victoria Watcher, 23 June 2020 - 04:56 PM.

[kxl]

Sidney may be off-limits to the suspect, but not North Saanich, Central Saanich, Saanich, Victoria, Oak Bay, Esquimalt, View Royal...

[aastra]

 

you are going to need to show them ID or come up with some way of proving who you are.

 

Yeah, my point here is you don't have it. Then what?

[aastra]

One jurisdiction's responsive solution is another jurisdiction's legal impossibility.

 

Even though they have the same laws.

 

 

barring people from the commercial centre of the city and administrative centre of the province might prove be problematic

 

Ah, I see. So crime must be in downtown Victoria. It wouldn't really be downtown without lots of crime. Whereas crime has no place in downtown Sidney. It wouldn't be downtown Sidney if it had crime.

Edited by aastra, 24 June 2020 - 07:28 AM.

[Mike K.]

Victoria, BC – Patrol officers are warning the public after a Victoria woman lost $4000 to CRA scammers.

Patrol officers were dispatched to a fraud call just after 1 p.m. yesterday. The victim reported that she had received an automated telephone call from the “Strathmore RCMP” indicating that a warrant had been issued for her arrest after Service Canada began investigating a Canada Revenue Agency related incident involving her social insurance number (SIN). The scammers were aggressive, manipulative and convincing. They insisted that the victim stay on the phone, apart from one instance where they provided her a telephone number to call to convince her that the scam was legitimate. The victim was instructed to convert money into bitcoin for payment. She lost approximately $4000.

In a twist, the investigating officer received an “auto-dialer” call from the “Strathmore Police” to his personal phone while investigating this fraud. This call did not, unfortunately, lead to the identification of suspects. The call does suggest that these calls are working their way through Esquimalt and Victoria and officers are urging the public to be vigilant.

Many of these Canada Revenue Agency frauds are perpetuated by organized crime groups based overseas. Victims often do not see their funds returned.

Service Canada and the Canada Revenue Agency will not telephone you to inform you that there is a warrant for your arrest. They will not ask for payment by bitcoin or gift card. If you receive a phone call from the “Strathmore Police” indicating that there is a warrant for your arrest due to a Service Canada or Revenue Canada issue with your social insurance number hang up. It is likely a fraud. If you have concerns, please call the Canada Revenue Agency directly.

To learn more about how to avoid being victimized by scammers, please visit vicpd.ca/fraud.

To report an unsuccessful fraud attempt please visit: https://antifraudcen...ignalez-eng.htm

[Victoria Watcher]

Yeah, my point here is you don't have it. Then what?

well most people are “in the system” from driver licenses or other interactions with police over time.

police have entire “identification departments” to try to figure it out.

then can hold you while they make phone calls or even have other jurisdiction members check an address. failing all that they can fingerprint you. failing anything there they can have you swear before a judge who you are and be told when to come back to court.

[exc911ence]

Victoria, BC – Patrol officers are warning the public after a Victoria woman lost $4000 to CRA scammers.

Patrol officers were dispatched to a fraud call just after 1 p.m. yesterday. The victim reported that she had received an automated telephone call from the “Strathmore RCMP” indicating that a warrant had been issued for her arrest after Service Canada began investigating a Canada Revenue Agency related incident involving her social insurance number (SIN). The scammers were aggressive, manipulative and convincing. They insisted that the victim stay on the phone, apart from one instance where they provided her a telephone number to call to convince her that the scam was legitimate. The victim was instructed to convert money into bitcoin for payment. She lost approximately $4000.

In a twist, the investigating officer received an “auto-dialer” call from the “Strathmore Police” to his personal phone while investigating this fraud. This call did not, unfortunately, lead to the identification of suspects. The call does suggest that these calls are working their way through Esquimalt and Victoria and officers are urging the public to be vigilant.

Many of these Canada Revenue Agency frauds are perpetuated by organized crime groups based overseas. Victims often do not see their funds returned.

Service Canada and the Canada Revenue Agency will not telephone you to inform you that there is a warrant for your arrest. They will not ask for payment by bitcoin or gift card. If you receive a phone call from the “Strathmore Police” indicating that there is a warrant for your arrest due to a Service Canada or Revenue Canada issue with your social insurance number hang up. It is likely a fraud. If you have concerns, please call the Canada Revenue Agency directly.

To learn more about how to avoid being victimized by scammers, please visit vicpd.ca/fraud.

To report an unsuccessful fraud attempt please visit: https://antifraudcen...ignalez-eng.htm

 

I haven't answered a call from an unknown phone number in decades! Hard to believe that people still do.

 

I figure if it's important, the caller will leave a message... and having said that, I have had a couple of dozen messages letting me know that my SIN number has been connected to some crime somewhere.... delete message and block caller. Job done!

[aastra]

 

well most people are “in the system” from driver licenses or other interactions with police over time.

police have entire “identification departments” to try to figure it out.

then can hold you while they make phone calls or even have other jurisdiction members check an address. failing all that they can fingerprint you. failing anything there they can have you swear before a judge who you are and be told when to come back to court.

 

I think you're missing my point here.To further facilitate the discussion I'll invent the term "no fixed address". If the powers to figure out where the individual "belongs" are available to all police departments then why do only some police departments bother to do it?

[Nparker]

...If the powers to figure out where the individual "belongs" are available to all police departments then why do only some police departments bother to do it?

It certainly isn't because some police departments interpret laws differently due to external political pressure. That would be indefensible.

[todd]

I haven't answered a call from an unknown phone number in decades! Hard to believe that people still do.
 
I figure if it's important, the caller will leave a message... and having said that, I have had a couple of dozen messages letting me know that my SIN number has been connected to some crime somewhere.... delete message and block caller. Job done!

https://youtu.be/ZigDpBcu6hg

[Mike K.]

🚔Suspect Sought In Hate Crime Involving Assault With Weapon🚔

Victoria, BC – Investigators are asking for your help as we work to identify a potential suspect in a hate crime involving an assault with a weapon that left a man with non-life-threatening injuries.

On June 24th, just after 1 a.m., Patrol officers were called to the 1300-block of Douglas Street for a report of an assault with a weapon. When they arrived, they located a man with non-life-threatening injuries. Witnesses to the incident reported that the victim had been assaulted, and struck over the head with a bottle, by a man he did not know. Witnesses reported that the suspect was yelling derogatory terms regarding the victim’s sexual orientation during the assault. The suspect then fled the scene with a small group. Officers were unable to locate the suspect or the group, despite searching the area.

The suspect is described as a Caucasian man, with blond hair, a black baseball hat, a grey hoodie and black pants. An image of the suspect was captured on nearby surveillance and is below.

The victim was transported to hospital for treatment for his injuries.

If you recognize this suspect, or have information about this incident and have not yet spoken to police, please call (250) 995-7654, extension 1. To report what you know anonymously, please call Greater Victoria Crime Stoppers at 1-800-222-8477.