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[PraiseKek]

We need three strike laws here. Three strikes and you go away for life.

[sebberry]

We need three strike laws here. Three strikes and you go away for life.

 

No we don't. 

[FawltyVic]

We need three strike laws here. Three strikes and you go away for life.

Definitely not.

[Bob Fugger]

Just drove through Cook Street Village. Police tape is up, condoning off all of Southgate Street right at Cook Street. A couple of police cruisers were there, along with a cube van stopped about halfway between Cook and Vancouver Streets.

[A Girl is No one]

Just drove through Cook Street Village. Police tape is up, condoning off all of Southgate Street right at Cook Street. A couple of police cruisers were there, along with a cube van stopped about halfway between Cook and Vancouver Streets.

Victoria police and SWAT on scene of incident on Southgate street

https://www.cheknews...eet-476752/amp/

[Mike K.]

VicPD have confirmed they have a suspect in custody now.

[mbjj]

Any word on what happened on Southgate? When we walked home from Symphony Splash they still had Southgate blocked off.

[Rob Randall]

Interesting reading those old newspapers. With a morning and afternoon paper, news came out fast, often with the perp's home address! I don't know how accurate or biased it was but if anything it was too much information. Compared with today with local police being as secretive as the Politburo and the decimation of local news media. We may never know more than a few words about what happened on Southgate. We are still waiting to hear about the body found last week near Cowichan that everyone suspects is Gladys Barlow.

[A Girl is No one]

The Times Communist has a brief article that says people on Southgate street were evacuated out of the standard “abundance of precaution” and a suspect was arrested and taken to hospital. Apparently, privacy precludes them from saying anything more.

We also never heard back about the dead body they found in Pioneer park a month or two ago. Had it been OD they would have said.

Edited by A Girl is No one, 06 August 2018 - 04:16 PM.

[Kilo95]

It was related to someone who claimed to have a gun in the apartment building there, but sounds like just mental health issues (again) in the end. If you're curious you can always listen to the CREST radio online (although it's being encrypted soon) rather than wait 2 days for a media release to come out. Or join that Howie guy's "What the hell just happened" facebook page..

[David Bratzer]

We need three strike laws here. Three strikes and you go away for life.

 

Frankly, I would be happy with a thirty strikes law.  Even a fifty strikes law would work wonders.  Fifty criminal convictions and you get a five year federal prison term.

[Cassidy]

 If you're curious you can always listen to the CREST radio online (although it's being encrypted soon) rather than wait 2 days for a media release to come out....

Brief CREST rant to follow:

 

CREST is currently in the process of implementing the P-25 protocol, which can be encrypted, but isn't always encrypted.

They're not expected to have the system fully in place until sometime after 2020.

 

Trunked, digital radio (P-25) is quite different from trunked, digital, encrypted P-25 radio ... yet both are possible with the P-25 system.

Any $400 or $500 trunking scanner can pick up unencrypted P-25 transmissions.

 

I've not found one solid reference to confirm that any of the CREST services are definitely going to encrypt their transmissions, a process which carries with it a lot of technical issues as well as issues with transparency and secrecy of law enforcement. They could encrypt their transmissions (at great additional cost), or they could leave them unencrypted.

 

The reason CREST is going to P-25 is not specifically so they can encrypt their transmissions, rather it's the major upgrade to the system moving from an analog/digital hybrid to an all digital system.

 

Reality Check: it's likely that rank'n'file and Officers/Admin in the various police departments will want to encrypt their transmissions, to possibly receive push-back from politicians and private citizens. If one department wishes to pursue that process, it would result in all CREST departments being required to pursue that process, something that may or may not be possible in our 13 kingdom region called the CRD.

Encryption is already a fact of life in the Lower Mainland, so folks presume it's automatically going to be a fact of life with CREST, whereas it may not be.

 

Simply put ... upgrading to the P-25 system doesn't automatically imply encrypted communications.

 

Regardless, nothing is going to happen until after 2020 (if it happens at all).

[57WestHills]

All Police agencies here will be encrypted.

[Langford Rat]

All Police agencies here will be encrypted.

That's too bad. I just discovered that Howie Allan's Facebook group. It can be quite useful and entertaining. They just hit the 8000 member mark. That's a lot of eyes and ears out there reporting on up to the minute events happening in this burg. It's also a lot of ridiculous opinions and idiotic statements made by some basement-dwelling trolls who lurk there...but, hey....there's a lot of real time info to be mined.

[57WestHills]

I've posted in longer form before and honestly cannot be bothered to write it all out again, however, the public has literally no entitlement to the information that goes over Police radio. There's regularly medical / mental health broadcast, a slew of allegations that quickly turn out to be untrue, etc. This should have been encrypted decades ago when privacy law was introduced, but it was always a cost / benefit thing.

[Coreyburger]

No we don't. 

 

We actually agree on something! Shocking.

 

Tossing people into jail does very little except spend a great deal of money keeping them in jail and then even more money once they get out.

[Cassidy]

........the public has literally no entitlement to the information that goes over Police radio.......

That's certainly a highly personal opinion, but really nothing more than that ... and certainly carrying no more weight than the opinion of those folks who consider law enforcement encryption of their radio transmissions an effort to hide ones activities (which is exactly what encryption was designed for, and is intended to do!)

 

The simple truth is that cops everywhere don't like to be listened to, video taped, or otherwise have their activities recorded to any sort of permanent record (see the Robert Dziekanski file for the reason why).

The lay-public isn't stupid ... and nobody is buying the "privacy law" argument. 

 

As well, it's a false sense of security on the part of law enforcement, as P-25 encryption was broken in 2011, and remains highly vulnerable to those who would listen in for nefarious purposes (it's only the regular Joe Blow radio scanner dude who will be affected by encryption).

 

https://tech.slashdo...-P25-Encryption

[lanforod]

The real purpose behind encrypting is to stop all the news trucks from converging on scenes.

[pennymurphy2000]

It looks like we have a firebug in our 'hood. We are on Frederick Norris just off Henderson by UVic

 

A few days ago I was working in my driveway when I heard a 'woomp' and looked down at the end of the cul de sac and saw a big plume of smoke...took me a minute to process and then realise this isnt right. Ran over with the daughters boyfriend and found the homeowner frantically hosing down his classic '92 911 Turbo, poor guy was breathing some serious fumes, took about 5 mins for fire/ambulance/police to arrive and they carted him off for a few hours of oxygen at RJH.

 

Police said it was most likely rats chewing the wiring etc....ok fair enough, common occurrence....poor guy going to have a fight with ICBC to get the real value of the car which is in excess of $100k (some are selling in the 200's...)

 

Then yesterday mid-morning another fire on the same street about 8 houses over, similar, carport fire except no car there but a woodpile. Some guys were driving past and jumped into action. I got home about an hour after and saw the fire and police there....a few hours later talking with the neighbours it turns out they found a gas can in the blue wheely bin that was full of newspapers....looked like the owners can and it was empty but the bin stank of gasoline. 

 

Than last night, I'm just leaving at 7 and look down the cul de sac and the fire trucks are back as well as the police....another fire in the same location as the first fire.....

 

These are now getting into lottery ticket odds and I'm thinking maybe it wasnt rats of the animal variety that torched the Porsche...

 

Quite un-nerving and definitely makes you look around your own property to make sure the gas cans etc are secured out of plain view  

 

This morning I get a message request through FB from the OB News wanting my comments...I told her let the police do their job and anything outside of that is conjecture....

https://www.saanichn...-oak-bay-fires/

[PraiseKek]

We actually agree on something! Shocking.

 

Tossing people into jail does very little except spend a great deal of money keeping them in jail and then even more money once they get out.

Don't let them out. That's the point. Is there really any reason to let a chronic offender out of prison? I can't think of a single reason at all.

Edited by PraiseKek, 07 August 2018 - 04:17 PM.